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Old 01-16-2017, 10:00 AM
 
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Both are racist too so that is another thing he has in common with Lincoln.
Can you validate this to any real extent? Not allegations, suppositions, or loose correlations, but actual verified and validated evidence?

The reason I say this is because the race card is not only overplayed, but it has been done so much that it immediately invalidates the argument of anyone who attempts to play it.

Don't be a talking point puppet please.
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb Did the reincarnation of Abraham Lincoln, just get elected?

uh...

No

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Old 01-16-2017, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Lets hope not. 600,000 Americans died under Lincoln's leadership.
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:06 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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There will not be a civil war. In the 1860s, there was a clear divide. The federalist Union and the anti-federalist confederacy. The Union believed the federal government should have the authority to go across state lines and take action that can be described as objectively wrong (slavery, in the case of the civil war) while the confederacy disagreed.

Contrary to what people think, there is no clear divide today. People can say it's "left and right" but 1) if you think the Democratic party is leftists in any way, your definition of leftism is entirely superficial and 2) the Democratic party and Republican party both suffer from serious infighting, the Democratic party in particular being too keen to play into interest politics. The very nature of interest politics and the extensive role they play currently is evidence enough that an even split, at this point, is an impossibility.
Oh, there you go ruining the survivalist's fantasies.
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Texas
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It sure feels like it.

The whole feel and vibe is 1860 once again, with 50% at the throat of the other 50%.

Remember what happened in 1861.

Could we see Reconstruction of the Blue States, with Federal replacement of their state legislatures and governors, because they refuse to abide by the US Constitution.
Relax...

Trump is THE most unpopular president-elect in history. He lost the vote by a huge margin. Anyone expecting that there wouldn't be some raw edges is naïve beyond all reason.

But there's no slavery-type issue dividing us.

It's just hyperpartisan nonsense mostly fed by hate radio. Their message is relentless: "America sucks and it's all your neighbors' fault!"

Their audience swallows it hook, line, and sinker. Then they come to sites like CD-POC and repeat what they've heard, acting like all of us who aren't dittoheads are some sort of alien enemy.
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:26 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You are attempting to compare The Donald to Abe?
Naw, just the circumstances in which he was elected.
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:30 AM
 
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Naw, just the circumstances in which he was elected.

But that is not what you posted?
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:32 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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So you knew what the "vibe" was back in 1860?

LOL, but to answer you question ahhhhhhhh....NO!

It would not be the first time Republicans had to toss Democrats out state legislatures and governorship's, because they would not follow the Constitution. But that was 1869-1871. Like now, to the victor goes the spoils.
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:35 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Can you validate this to any real extent? Not allegations, suppositions, or loose correlations, but actual verified and validated evidence?

The reason I say this is because the race card is not only overplayed, but it has been done so much that it immediately invalidates the argument of anyone who attempts to play it.

Don't be a talking point puppet please.

Oh, no doubt Lincoln was racist. Everyone of those times had some degree way worse than we are today.
What did he say. They may be free, but they will never be equal
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:36 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Lets hope not. 600,000 Americans died under Lincoln's leadership.
The blue democrat run cities are overcrowded and could use a little thinning. LOL!!!
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