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Old 01-16-2017, 01:25 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The 13th amendment to the constitution is what VOIDED all other nonsense in the constitution saying slavery shall be legal and somewhat regulated.

Correct.
It was not altered by Congressional legislation and a political supreme court, looking how the law is constitutional, not looking how it can be unconstitutional.
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Old 01-16-2017, 01:30 PM
 
Location: My House
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That's not how this works.

The Constitution guarantees everyone the right to disagree with it.

I swear... did that many people miss Civics education in school?
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Old 01-16-2017, 01:32 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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If a person residing in the USA, does not respect or follow the US Constitution word for word,(not what they think it should say) they are in fact a Domestic Enemy. This goes for Supreme Court Justices too.
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, (insure domestic Tranquility), provide for the common defence, (promote the general Welfare), and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Insuring domestic tranquility and promoting the general welfare means that all Americans have inner peace and we all work together to insure all Americans have prosperous lives. How do republicans feel about no Americans going to bed hungry or low income workers having life's basic necessities? (republicans oppose combating those problems and call attempts to do it socialism.)


"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

How do republicans feel about gay Americans having the right to get married, or low income Americans having the ability to bail themselves out of jail, or the rights of low income black Americans to have access to jobs that bring them the American dream? (republicans oppose combating those things unless its done by supply side/trickle down tax cuts that give the majority of their benefits to the richest 1%.)


Republicans don't even follow the first sentences of the constitution. Republicans simply use the "constitution" to Americanize their corporate inspired dreams of supply side tax cuts, corporate deregulation, and no high worker wages.
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Old 01-16-2017, 01:38 PM
 
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If a person residing in the USA, does not respect or follow the US Constitution word for word,(not what they think it should say) they are in fact a Domestic Enemy.
There is a difference between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. You can't yell "bomb" on an airplane or "fire" in a crowded theater. You can't threaten people like the POTUS or all the way down to street level cops and claim "freedom of speech".
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Old 01-16-2017, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Correct.
It was not altered by Congressional legislation and a political supreme court, looking how the law is constitutional, not looking how it can be unconstitutional.
I don't care. The constitution can and does change all the time. It's a piece of paper written by dudes who died centuries ago who had zero concept of what the world would be like today. I don't take the constitution all that serious.
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Old 01-16-2017, 01:46 PM
 
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I don't care. The constitution can and does change all the time. It's a piece of paper written by dudes who died centuries ago who had zero concept of what the world would be like today. I don't take the constitution all that serious.
I will say just knowing your opinion exists , under the protection of and as you benefit from the document itself and those who fight to protect it, is sickening.

None the less , I will protect your right to do so with my life, and that is the point.
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Old 01-16-2017, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I will say just knowing your opinion exists , under the protection of and as you benefit from the document itself and those who fight to protect it, is sickening.

None the less , I will protect your right to do so with my life, and that is the point.
Spare me.

You are clearly not one of the millions who have had that document used against them. I would imagine old heterosexual white guys wouldn't understand why the constitution can never be taken too seriously.
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Old 01-16-2017, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Pixley
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The 1st amendment is thought and discussion, with mind and mouth. Not actions, you take to make a stand and become a Domestic Enemy, to the words of the US Constitution...
Please don't confuse the 2 to disrupt the discussion, plz.


And I quote, "To defend the US Constitution from all enemies, Foreign & Domestic"
You are not taking into account that everyone will interpret the Constitution in different ways. That is the very essence of the document.

And the first amendment states:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."


I think you are confusing the use of the literal words to singular meanings.

Exercising religion is more than words. It is partaking in physical ceremonies - drinking, knelling, standing, sitting, dancing, etc...

Speech is considered ideas, not just the physical act of speaking.

To Assemble is the act of physically gathering.

Petition can be done with words, acts or deeds.

After all, I don't see where the word "thought" is stated in the First Amendment.


Based on your interpretation of the Constitution, slavery would still be legal and slaves would count for 3/5 of a vote because the framers of the 13th and 14th Amendments were domestic enemies, for they disagreed with the word for word ideas stated in the Constitution.
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Old 01-16-2017, 01:59 PM
 
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Spare me.

You are clearly not one of the millions who have had that document used against them. I would imagine old heterosexual white guys wouldn't understand why the constitution can never be taken too seriously.
You are only spared because you live under the protection of the very document you decry.

How has the Constitution been used against you? You seem to be doing just fine expressing your heterophobic racism under the first amendment.
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Old 01-16-2017, 02:14 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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That's not how this works.

The Constitution guarantees everyone the right to disagree with it.


I'm confused by your post.
I did not see where anyone has opposed this point of view, you possess.


One's thought and dialog, are not the actions of the individual.

I may not agree with law, but I have to follow it, if it is constitutionally authorized to make and enforce it.
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