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The problem is everybody wants services but wants someone else to pay for it. We would become a Third World country in pretty short order.
Cats and dogs living together.....
Why don't you backup that silly statement. And when you are doing that, make sure you don't touch on the fact that resources are a huge influence on what is and isn't a third world country. That would hurt the narrative.
Free health care is such an emotional issue. There's a big part of me that says "of course!" But then knowing how much humans take things for granted when things are "free" give me pause.
Also, free health care and open borders seems like a recipe for disaster... not to mention the "sue happy" society we live in. My English hubby says that easily suing the medical profession isn't a thing in England... at least when he still lived there.
I once visited a free clinic there in London in a mall briefly for some minor issue that just needed some medicine. It was nice that it was free... never mind the 17 % sales tax on the pair of shoes I just bought. On the other hand, having a high sales tax does force "everybody" to pay... although many do without because of it.
My husband's grandmother was on a waiting list for a knee surgery for 4 years before she gave up, and his step mother just recently had back surgery. Took over 6 months to get in to see a specialist, another 6 months to have the surgery, and afterwards sent home with pain medication. No physical therapy. She's a little better, but not much.
Anyway, it's a dilemma... I feel for those scared about losing their Obamacare even if me and my husband (who became a flag waving citizen of the U.S. a couple of years ago) have a Libertarian view on many things these days.
Here's an interesting take on free market vs. "right" to healthcare...
The problem with Obamacare was that it penalized a segment of the country for those sick people through the use of high premiums unrelated to their history of claims, rather than an across the board tax footed by all taxpayers, incl. the sick people.
Older people and health people saw their premiums double or triple, or more, for no reason whatsoever than the ins. co. needed to make up for the losses of the sick people. And the ins. wasn't good, tailored to their needs, had high deductibles in many instances, and few providers who would take it. The millions getting their ins. through employment didn't have to foot that bill.
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The problem is everybody wants services but wants someone else to pay for it. We would become a Third World country in pretty short order.
People in this Country have been paying taxes in one form or another since the Mayflower landed, and now it is threatening to turn us into a third world country? We pay taxes so that we can do things collectively that we could not do alone.. you know little things like purifying our drinking water, building bridges, paying for a standing army. All things that cannot be done alone or with the "voluntary" contributions of whoever decided to donate.
Loss prevention is great but doesn't replace police if you are mugged, or fire if your house is burning huh? If we didn't have a government I would have to negotiate with private police and fire and if I forgot to send in my monthly check then I guess I am on my own, like these people were: No pay, no spray: Firefighters let home burn - US news - Life | NBC News
I'm just describing to you why full privatization is impossible under statism. Me talking about my line of work was just to illustrate the point.
Yes, no pay = no service.
Sorry but the slope you're going down is a cradle to grave babysitter.
Then we might as well join the animal kingdom. The only right is to breathe air without being billed for it. Otherwise, everybody lives for the survival of the fittest. Everybody who has enough money to pay their medical bills will prevail on the survivors side.
You're missing the other benefit of no State: you own your mind, body, and labor. It's not harnessed at birth by the State and redistributed back to you as it sees fit over the course of your lifetime as we have now.
I don't want people to die due to lack of medical care. You don't want it either. Maybe you and I can form a voluntary association that exerts a certain amount of pressure on the necessary players to see things like medical care for the poor is addressed.
No theft. No force. You want to help. Join us. You don't. No harm no foul.
Now, if certain people (say a doctor) want to deny care to a certain extent perhaps the folks in our group can shun them to encourage them to change their mind.
Again, no force. No theft. No violence.
Maybe the mechanic in our group won't work on the doctor's car. Maybe the baker won't make him a cake (sound familiar?). Maybe the roofer in our group won't patch the good doctor's shingles for him. Maybe the farmer in our group won't sell his fruits and veggies to the doc.
Catch my drift?
Can't do that now. Try to deny service and Uncle Sammy will knock on your door. Fined, caged, or death is on the table if you try it.
I'm just describing to you why full privatization is impossible under statism. Me talking about my line of work was just to illustrate the point.
Yes, no pay = no service.
Sorry but the slope you're going down is a cradle to grave babysitter.
Not since the one time I voted when I turned 18...before I was even that informed about politics. I'm against voting because it legitimizes the game.
I think it's like being at a game of poker. If you decide to play, you can't complain if you lose money. If you don't play, you don't owe the winner anything.
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On the other hand, having a high sales tax does force "everybody" to pay... although many do without because of it. 
