Disabled children no longer being given proper protection under Trump? (abuse, state)
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Some of you are pathetic. God forbid one of you have a special needs child, are you going to give them up to the state? You can tell society has sunk when there are people who believe that disabled people are a burden on society to where they deserve no support/resources and they should be left to the mercy of the state. Some of the greatest contributions to society and inventions have been made by disabled people. You have disabled children who grow up to be productive members of society.
Spare us your demagoguery. You're not going to intimidate people into not talking about this. You should be ashamed of using these kids in this way. There is a finite amount of money that is spent on public education and each year we spend more and more on students labeled "disabled" and thus devote a lesser share to the other students. It's not only an important debate to have, it's a necessary one.
First and foremost, we need to have a discussion about how effectively the current system, and the dogma that drives it, is serving these students with disabilities, along with our society. Not very well at all, by my reckoning, for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the practice of what used to be called "mainstreaming." A large portion of these students are not well-served by placing them in regular education classes. Beyond their academics, they are subjected to more teasing and bullying that doesn't need to happen. But it sure makes some adults feel good.
Hearing Betty DeVos, the new Education secretary and a woman who is a die hard Mad Max social darwinist, talk about how disabled children shouldnt get federal protection is very troublesome.
Do you support the idea of disabled children being left to the mercy of the states so states can chase out families with disabled children because they use too much taxpayer money?
LOL. What a ridiculous loaded question. The feds have no authority to do anything about it, so they need to stop meddling in something that is none of their business. And taxpayers -- whether state or federal -- have every right to say how much is too much. It's wrong to enslave someone even if the beneficiary is disabled.
They are welcome to take the welfare but they just lose the right to have babies and to vote.
So how do you insure no babies? You have to have something reversible, in case they pay up. So how about chastity belts? No birth control would work because you would have to police its use. So what if they get pregnant? Mandatory abortion? Maybe you would resort to forced sterilization. No system that is so invasive of the personal lives of people (what is more personal than your sex life and having children?) could be allowed under our Constitution. You would have to become a totalitarian state and control people as China did when there was a one-child policy.
It sounds like you want a permanent under-class: handicapped individuals and their families (as long as they are not rich and able to be completely "personally responsible" for the child's medical care and education.) So these families would be unable to vote, prohibited (somehow) from having more children, and prohibited from appropriate education for their handicapped child, and probably poor for having to pay for everything, also unable to work so that someone can take care of the child. So that's what we need: and underclass of poor, unemployed, disenfranchised, people without healthcare. And all of this would be because someone is unlucky enough to have a child that isn't perfect. Believe me, this can happen to anyone. Is this your utopia?
Spare us your demagoguery. You're not going to intimidate people into not talking about this. You should be ashamed of using these kids in this way. There is a finite amount of money that is spent on public education and each year we spend more and more on students labeled "disabled" and thus devote a lesser share to the other students. It's not only an important debate to have, it's a necessary one.
First and foremost, we need to have a discussion about how effectively the current system, and the dogma that drives it, is serving these students with disabilities, along with our society. Not very well at all, by my reckoning, for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the practice of what used to be called "mainstreaming." A large portion of these students are not well-served by placing them in regular education classes. Beyond their academics, they are subjected to more teasing and bullying that doesn't need to happen. But it sure makes some adults feel good.
I'm not the one who feels the disabled are a burden on society. Having kids is a gamble because you don't know if they're going to be born healthy or which genetic disorders. The reason why more money is spent on disabled kids because disabled children require more support services than regular students. I will say this: It's more pathetic that disabled kids are bullied and teased disproportionately than other students, but that's the sorry world we live in.
Hearing Betty DeVos, the new Education secretary and a woman who is a die hard Mad Max social darwinist, talk about how disabled children shouldnt get federal protection is very troublesome.
Do you support the idea of disabled children being left to the mercy of the states so states can chase out families with disabled children because they use too much taxpayer money?
The problem, which DeVos has correctly identified, is that disabled students are the only students who actually have any legal educational rights. All the other students' educational needs get routinely trampled by always catering only to the disabled.
In my state, some parents shop for a diagnosis so they can get special help an d privileges for their kids. It’s out of hand.
Exactly. They then scream 'IDEA violation' and threaten to sue the school if they don't get exactly everything they demand. Try doing that if you have a non-disabled student. School administrators/faculty/staff will laugh you right out of the building.
Hearing Betty DeVos, the new Education secretary and a woman who is a die hard Mad Max social darwinist, talk about how disabled children shouldnt get federal protection is very troublesome.
Do you support the idea of disabled children being left to the mercy of the states so states can chase out families with disabled children because they use too much taxpayer money?
Clams with NO evidence to back it up, is like farting in the wind!
Spare us your demagoguery. You're not going to intimidate people into not talking about this. You should be ashamed of using these kids in this way. There is a finite amount of money that is spent on public education and each year we spend more and more on students labeled "disabled" and thus devote a lesser share to the other students. It's not only an important debate to have, it's a necessary one.
This is politically incorrect but the vast majority of people I see parking their cars in handicapped spaces are fat lazy slobs who have to deal with diabetes from years of eating KFC and Taco Bell that have never set foot in a gym in their lives. I can't remember seeing an actual wheelchair in my entire life from someone parking in the blue space. It's always someone in a mobility scooter who could get around on their own two feet if they bothered to break a sweat
This is politically incorrect but the vast majority of people I see parking their cars in handicapped spaces are fat lazy slobs who have to deal with diabetes from years of eating KFC and Taco Bell that have never set foot in a gym in their lives. I can't remember seeing an actual wheelchair in my entire life from someone parking in the blue space. It's always someone in a mobility scooter who could get around on their own two feet if they bothered to break a sweat
So only people in wheelchairs are disabled according to you.
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