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In watching the butthurt legions planning to disrupt a presidential inauguration, and the entire left convulsing with an inability to accept the notion that the grownups are as yet unwilling to accept socialistic totalitarianism, it occurs to me that we are going to have to deal with these people. They are not going to sit down and wait four years for another chance at their plan for utopia. They are going to monopolize the media coverage, disrupt order in any way they can, and at least occasionally beat up or kill those who disagree with them. This will continue until they feel they have regained control, I feel. If anything, I expect the insurgency to become more violent and more insistent, having been so close to gaining a generational lock on the power structure in this country. Anybody else thinking like this?
I worry that it is a matter of time before the anger and division become armed conflict, and that will take us nowhere good. A civil war or major clashes across America would give government both the incentive and the support for a totalitarian crackdown to restore order, and with the return of order, we would find essential liberties gone forever. Thoughts?
In watching the butthurt legions planning to disrupt a presidential inauguration, and the entire left convulsing with an inability to accept the notion that the grownups are as yet unwilling to accept socialistic totalitarianism, it occurs to me that we are going to have to deal with these people. They are not going to sit down and wait four years for another chance at their plan for utopia. They are going to monopolize the media coverage, disrupt order in any way they can, and at least occasionally beat up or kill those who disagree with them. This will continue until they feel they have regained control, I feel. If anything, I expect the insurgency to become more violent and more insistent, having been so close to gaining a generational lock on the power structure in this country. Anybody else thinking like this?
I worry that it is a matter of time before the anger and division become armed conflict, and that will take us nowhere good. A civil war or major clashes across America would give government both the incentive and the support for a totalitarian crackdown to restore order, and with the return of order, we would find essential liberties gone forever. Thoughts?
Actually, I have.
I was thinking of the Saul Alinsky wannabes and the domestic terrorism that was around in the late 60's-early 70's when this kind of behavior became accepted by the press and other's in power where they could use the useful idiots willing to perpetrate violence to gain power for themselves.
After the 1968 Democrat convention in Chicago, it got pretty bad for a while.
The stuff that happened with Nixon only validated them, and they gained power and became more dangerous. When they became mainstream where they could terrorize through laws instead of using bombs, they became less obvious, but they were still the same people.
This new crop is no better, but they've lost political power, so I don't see it as any stretch for them revert to domestic terrorism again to get their way through fear and intimidation. Just take a look at the boards calling Trump a Nazi and trying to de-legitimize the election. The pure vitriol they spew is a throwback to the "revolution" rhetoric of the anti establishment of the 60's.
It's scary to think people are still that hateful and willing to harm others simply for a political viewpoint.
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The "insurgency" how are they going to have an insurgency? The poor little buttercups don't believe in guns. ROFLMAO.
This isn't Russia in 1916. Look at the political maps, other than the urban centers the country is still America. The Bolshevik types aren't capable of moving beyond their city ghettos. I can tell you how a clash between Safe Spaces Matter and Black RIFLES Matter would turn out.
In my town we have about 35 cops and about 20,000 vets, and most everyone has a gun, or twenty. A riot here? HA! I don't think we even HAVE any socialist sorts, but if we do, we have a big desert in need of fertilizer. And we won't need any military assistance.
There is a problem at the legislative level though. The socialist democrats will continue their anti-american activities. Places like San Francisco, and CA and New York and DC, will remain sanctuaries for foreign criminals and will continue to place Americans as second class citizens until more are displaced in our own country until eventually enough people grow a pair and decide to take it back using whatever action is necessary to drive the invades from our lands.
Maybe Trump can fix it. But we have to be very careful that we didn't just elect the "Third Reich" into power and applaud as freedom ends. Things could go south very fast without people realizing it until too late. Germans didn't all set out to become Nazis. But then national fervor took hold and minorities became the scapegoats, etc.
The "insurgency" how are they going to have an insurgency? The poor little buttercups don't believe in guns. ROFLMAO.
This isn't Russia in 1916. Look at the political maps, other than the urban centers the country is still America. The Bolshevik types aren't capable of moving beyond their city ghettos. I can tell you how a clash between Safe Spaces Matter and Black RIFLES Matter would turn out.
In my town we have about 35 cops and about 20,000 vets, and most everyone has a gun, or twenty. A riot here? HA! I don't think we even HAVE any socialist sorts, but if we do, we have a big desert in need of fertilizer. And we won't need any military assistance.
There is a problem at the legislative level though. The socialist democrats will continue their anti-american activities. Places like San Francisco, and CA and New York and DC, will remain sanctuaries for foreign criminals and will continue to place Americans as second class citizens until more are displaced in our own country until eventually enough people grow a pair and decide to take it back using whatever action is necessary to drive the invades from our lands.
Maybe Trump can fix it. But we have to be very careful that we didn't just elect the "Third Reich" into power and applaud as freedom ends. Things could go south very fast without people realizing it until too late. Germans didn't all set out to become Nazis. But then national fervor took hold and minorities became the scapegoats, etc.
That COULD happen here.
Your last paragraph is what I fear most. Those who should know better, lining up behind the new threat out of hatred for the old one. Law and order, that'll show the snowflakes! Only problem is, power granted to government never goes away, and almost always ends up hammering the very folks who granted it.
My worry is that some fanatic will get 'too close' (with a weapon of some sort) to Trump or his family, or even the VP or to a high ranking cabinet member and let loose, setting off a series of events that move like wildfire across the nation.
I am fairly sure that most of the liberals who post here would not condone that kind of thing but what they don't realize is that they tacitly support it nonetheless (as evidenced by some of their truly ignorant or nasty remarks here on CD) and that support may be enough to bolster the bold or extremely stupid. That is always a risk for any administration of course but I think this one has been singled out more than most by hateful idiots.
Hopefully none of the above will happen but even if it doesn't, I am sure the fake news, accusations, innuendo, memes, etc. will fly fast and furious for the next few years. I get the feeling that unless funding is withdrawn these people won't quit their nastiness - both physical and verbal - and trying to influence allies in Congress to put up barriers to everything Trump may try to accomplish. Under those conditions, nothing will be healed, divisions will just get deeper and hate will fester till it can erupt. We must remain vigilant.
I agree we have a whole new generation of trained ape Alinsky-ites - let's just hope they don't really go Weathermen on us. We are breeding these people now in universities and colleges. Here is an article about how some state universities are now requiring a Civics course (for all students, regardless of major) that teaches how to protest, requires they practice activism and neglects to teach the basics of 'civics' as they should be taught (history, the constitution, etc.): https://www.nas.org/images/documents...fullReport.pdf It isn't about to get better any time soon.
Sometimes I wonder if we all stopped watching the news everyday if the world would become a better place?
Locally, everything seems fine and dandy, but when you turn on the internet and TV the whole world is falling apart. With some violence, division, strife and hate thrown in for good measure.
Is it designed to be this way?
(Slightly off topic I know, but had no where else to post )
Sometimes I wonder if we all stopped watching the news everyday if the world would become a better place?
Locally, everything seems fine and dandy, but when you turn on the internet and TV the whole world is falling apart. With some violence, division, strife and hate thrown in for good measure.
Is it designed to be this way?
(Slightly off topic I know, but had no where else to post )
In In some measure, you are correct. The media is fully engaged in fostering division and hatred. The fact is, the media are simply tools of the deep state now, and of little value to us.
Maybe Trump can fix it. But we have to be very careful that we didn't just elect the "Third Reich" into power and applaud as freedom ends. Things could go south very fast without people realizing it until too late. Germans didn't all set out to become Nazis. But then national fervor took hold and minorities became the scapegoats, etc.
That COULD happen here.
To quote and old adage.....for context, "they came for the Jews, but I am not a Jew, so I didn't listen".
Well, in todays world....along with great steps to silence the fourth estate....
"They came for the Auto Companies, but I don't build cars, so I didn't listen.
And then they came for the drug companies, but I don't make drugs, so I didn't listen.
And then they came for me, and there was no one left to talk to".
63 Million people are already hooked, thinking they are going to get $60/hour jobs putting hub caps on cars. Half a dozen industries (Autos, aircraft, drugs, etc.) have already felt the long arm of nationalism: "You WILL build things in this location for this price". "The Constitution doesn't apply to me; I am the President. I can pardon myself."
We are already way down the road toward a totalitarian regime where the very wealthy (nee, the Cabinet, et al) get very wealthy, and the rest of us get the bill. Hard to imagine that could happen before the inauguration, but it has. And just like with the Germans and Hitler, the great unwashed masses just LOVE it.
.... and the entire left convulsing with an inability to accept the notion that the grownups are as yet unwilling to accept socialistic totalitarianism.... They are not going to sit down and wait four years for another chance at their plan for utopia....A civil war or major clashes across America would give government both the incentive and the support for a totalitarian crackdown to restore order, and with the return of order, [b]we would find essential liberties gone foreve[/B]r.
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This new crop is no better, but they've lost political power, so I don't see it as any stretch for them revert to domestic terrorism again to get their way through fear and intimidation....It's scary to think people are still that hateful and willing to harm others simply for a political viewpoint.
We all need to look beyond the young people marching and protesting and whining, to see who is behind them. George Soros, David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, the Rothschilds - don't let the ages of these men (80s. 90s, 100+) fool you. There's a reason they are seldom in the news. These are extrememly private families of wealth who live internationally and jet all over the globe. They have made billions by moving people and governments to the left. Young people, by themselves, don't have the power to do this.
I have said it before and I repeat: depression-like economic conditions lead to socialism/totalitarianism. Nothing will scare away a socialist like prosperity, which Trump is trying to restore. He may bring some jobs back, but he can't restore prosperity. Only time and economic cycles can do that. The billionaires, who have stolen our money, see a chance to pounce and came sooooo close this time...only to see the people grasp that last chance from them. Of course they are hoppin' enraged! These guys are so old that they don't have another 4 years, or 8 years, to wait for "utopia".
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This isn't Russia in 1916. Look at the political maps, other than the urban centers the country is still America. The Bolshevik types aren't capable of moving beyond their city ghettos. I can tell you how a clash between Safe Spaces Matter and Black RIFLES Matter would turn out. ... The socialist democrats will continue their anti-american activities. Places like San Francisco, and CA and New York and DC, will remain sanctuaries ....eventually enough people grow a pair and decide to take it back using whatever action is necessary to drive the invades from our lands.
Right you are that the subversives concentrate on the urban areas (that's where the people are) and the ghetto inhabitants (that's where the poverty is). You can't whip comfortable suburbanites into a frenzy! Enough people DID just grow a pair and decide to take it all back - that's what all the furor is about! Good point about the guns; one of Obama's biggest regrets is that he failed to get our guns. As long as We The People have guns, the socialist/totalitarian forces are helpless to subvert us. Look at history!
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I get the feeling that unless funding is withdrawn these people won't quit their nastiness - both physical and verbal - and trying to influence allies in Congress....We are breeding these people now in universities and colleges.
Absolutely agreed about funding. Word has leaked out about Soros funding Black Lives Matter and the post-election "Not My President" demonstrations. Word has also leaked out that Soros has lost over a billion dollars on his bet that Hillary would win. He's a sore loser (and so is she).
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Sometimes I wonder if we all stopped watching the news everyday if the world would become a better place?
Yes. The mainstream media is bought and paid for and you won't get any truth there.
I've thought about this extensively... I don't think about it in terms of specific states against one another like north v south. I think of it in terms of urban areas vs suburbs vs rural.
I think there will be some regional variations but the lines will be gray areas and will be much more along race culture and class.
My synopsis is that rich people are fugged are the most part. Poor blacks will dominate urban areas and poor/working whites will dominate rural areas. Hispanics will likely side with blacks in urban areas and side with white in semi rural areas. All other races will likely split to whatever the local dominant in the area.
The battle grounds will be in suburban areas or transition areas with likely soft undefined fronts. What will be interesting is which sides and in what capacity will government infrastructure fall down in. Armed forces police etc....
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That is always a risk for any administration of course but I think this one has been singled out more than most by hateful idiots.
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