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Old 01-20-2017, 06:24 AM
 
Location: NC
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The right didn't demand recounts, the right didn't send death threats to electors, the right didn't terrorize major cities, the right didn't boycott the inauguration, the right didn't send death threats to entertainers who were set to perform at Obama's inauguration.

The right handled their loss like mature adults, the left is handling it like immature babies throwing a temper tantrum.
Assuming you are not just looking for an argument, I'll answer your question.

No, the right did not act the same, but they did act out. Different Modus Operandi, but just as damaging. The right decided (publicly) on day 1 to obstruct any agenda the elected President was to do. They basically said they know better than the will of the American People.

What the left is doing this year is no better, but it's no worse either. As another poster said, many people treat this like a football game (Sadly, BOTH SIDES are all acting like a bunch of Patriots fans, which is disgusting, but I digress.)

Me: I did not vote for Trump, I don't think he's the best choice and I didn't think Hillary was either (but I voted for her), BUT, I realize that the election is over, and he won by the rules in place. I won't be constantly obstructing him, or whining about why I don't like him. That ship has sailed, and it would not be productive. I'll look, it will be difficult, but I'll look for the nuggets of goodness in his platform and agenda, and I'll support them. I'll be vocal, but peaceful if I think he is outside the bounds of the constitution. I won't whine about every little thing he does that I think is wrong, it does no good. As of around the end of November, I've been "pretty quiet" about it all.

In the end, I hope he is a wild success, that he does a lot of good, and does not do too much damage. It's all subjective anyway, what one person calls success is what another calls damage. I hope that people can get along, that we stay out of wars, that our economy grows, and our environmental impact is minimized. I hope that all children have a chance for an education and a career, and that people can afford to stay healthy and get the care they need. I really don't care what party-label is attached to the person or persons who can steer us just a little bit in the right direction to making SOME of those things happen whilst avoiding eroding the other things on the list. I'm sure I missed a few.....
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Old 01-20-2017, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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No surprise that the first thing liberals responding to the thread do is try to change the topic, is it?
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Old 01-20-2017, 08:11 AM
 
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I agree. What the Democrats are doing is reprehensible.
Oh for crying out loud. You think the world's memory is that short do ya?

Here's how America peacefully responded to Obama's 2008 election | Revelist

Conservatives forget history in discrediting Trump protesters | TheHill

The rest of the planet was witness to nothing less than Americans publicly calling for Obama's assassination before he be allowed to move into the "White House".

The tone then was: "how can those people claim to have any morals or ethics?"

Give this supposed "conservatives holding a higher road" bullcrap a rest. When it comes to pin-heads, there's no shortage on either side of your mentally challenged, dysfunctional, two party aisle.

The world was witness 8 years ago and hasn't forgotten.
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Old 01-20-2017, 08:16 AM
 
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The question you have to ask yourself is why you care so much about this meaningless drivel and not getting big money out of politics. Is it because you see politics as some type of football game? What prevents you from seeing the extremely damaging influence special interests and the ruling billionaire class have on American democracy?
Why don't the Democrats throwing a tantrum care about that? Because there's no indication that the #notmypresident people give a **** about it outside of rhetoric. I mean, it's a fact that Hillary Clinton is not better in this regard. Yes, Trump is putting obviously unqualified business people into various federal positions, and it's not hard to guess that his 'economic plan' is likely better for business owners than it is for the workers (who are thus named because they do much of the work, in case anyone forgets that). But Hillary is paid for by the same people who promote political apathy and buy heavily into interest politics. Does that not benefit big money in politics?

There was one candidate who may actually have wanted to do what you're claiming you want. It wasn't Hillary Clinton.
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Old 01-20-2017, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Chambers County
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Really want to see all these American born Socialists and Communists melt down? Just wait a few hours when Trumps executive orders start coming!
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Old 01-20-2017, 11:24 AM
 
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Influence from special interests can be easily tracked by looking at large donor contributions to each candidate. Would you like to compare Hillary Clinton vs Trump in this category? Wanna show a graph? I could, and its NOT gonna make Clinton look very good at all. She is the exact opposite of getting "big money out of politics". I'll take a self funded man any day over the likes of bought off people like her.
Trump has promised us that he will eliminate all restrictions on bribe money in politics by nominating Scalia clones to the Supreme Courte.

Again, look at Congress. You seem totally obsessed with the presidency when Congress has more power. Which puppets did you vote for? Look at who was Trump's finance chair. A Goldman Sachs fat cat. Why do you think that was? DeVos gave 10m for Trump to win. Now she is the education secretary. What's so great about this?
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Old 01-20-2017, 11:27 AM
 
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Why don't the Democrats throwing a tantrum care about that? Because there's no indication that the #notmypresident people give a **** about it outside of rhetoric. I mean, it's a fact that Hillary Clinton is not better in this regard. Yes, Trump is putting obviously unqualified business people into various federal positions, and it's not hard to guess that his 'economic plan' is likely better for business owners than it is for the workers (who are thus named because they do much of the work, in case anyone forgets that). But Hillary is paid for by the same people who promote political apathy and buy heavily into interest politics. Does that not benefit big money in politics?

There was one candidate who may actually have wanted to do what you're claiming you want. It wasn't Hillary Clinton.
I didnt even vote for Clinton. Again, you are just talking, but you refuse to understand the problem, and now we have a president who will ensure that the Supreme Court opens up for making it impossible to ever again win office without begging the super rich for money. Scalia was a die hard believer in corruption in politics and wanted to make it much, much worse. Why do you think this benefits you?
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Old 01-20-2017, 11:30 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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The right was angrier in 2012 when Obama won his second term. Given the state of our country in 2008 and the backlash against Bush, most people had already accepted an Obama Presidency whether they wanted it or not, even before the election. 2008 wasn't even close. 2012 on the other hand was more of a surprise. A lot of people expected Obama to be a one-term President, especially since in 2012 we were still dealing with the residual impact of the Great Recession.

2009 was also prior to the age where everybody was living in their own echo chamber on social media. Facebook and MySpace was a teenage and college student fad when Obama took office. When he won re-election, they were used by everyone.

I remember many outrageous, apocalyptic things that were said in right wing media after Obama won re-election.
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Old 01-20-2017, 11:32 AM
 
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The question you have to ask yourself is why you care so much about this meaningless drivel and not getting big money out of politics. Is it because you see politics as some type of football game? What prevents you from seeing the extremely damaging influence special interests and the ruling billionaire class have on American democracy?
That's rich, you start the exact same garbage threads all the time.

Furthermore, Hillary wasn't even remotely getting the big money out of politics and in fact cheated the ONE GUY in the election that actually would have.
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Old 01-20-2017, 11:34 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The right didn't demand recounts, the right didn't send death threats to electors, the right didn't terrorize major cities, the right didn't boycott the inauguration, the right didn't send death threats to entertainers who were set to perform at Obama's inauguration.

The right handled their loss like mature adults,
the left is handling it like immature babies throwing a temper tantrum.
Must be why they tried sooooo hard to work with the winner, right?
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