President Trump's plan to put welfare folks back to work (drug, health care)
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It's really, really hard to get people to change their ways and embrace a new way. Especially people who have been down and depressed which most people dependent on welfare are I'm sure. If people are desperate enough, they will change but how desperate are we willing to make them? It's going to be a tough one for sure.
The thing with Democratic Leadership and they have created this fiasco, is they talk a good talk, but they keep people at arm's length. Tell poor black folks how the white man has screwed them over, but then give them a Walter Payton stiff arm and keep them out of the good life. Keep them in welfare and keep their votes. They have done this forever. It's a terrible cycle that is going to be tough to break.
What will Trump do differently? Welfare is state based so what will Trump do different at the federal level? Will he end the business of transferring welfare recipients to disability? Will he raise the standards so some guy with high blood pressure doesn't qualify?
We shall see. It's nice at least he wants to do something about getting welfare people back to work.
Never heard Obama mention anything about that and I'm pretty sure he didn't mention it at his inauguration.
01-20-2017, 11:02 PM
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We shall see. It's nice at least he wants to do something about getting welfare people back to work.
Never heard Obama mention anything about that and I'm pretty sure he didn't mention it at his inauguration.
Uh, his entire first time and most of his presidency was about getting people back to work.
You may have missed it if you only consumed right wing hate news...
It's really, really hard to get people to change their ways and embrace a new way. Especially people who have been down and depressed which most people dependent on welfare are I'm sure. If people are desperate enough, they will change but how desperate are we willing to make them? It's going to be a tough one for sure.
The thing with Democratic Leadership and they have created this fiasco, is they talk a good talk, but they keep people at arm's length. Tell poor black folks how the white man has screwed them over, but then give them a Walter Payton stiff arm and keep them out of the good life. Keep them in welfare and keep their votes. They have done this forever. It's a terrible cycle that is going to be tough to break.
In a way welfare is the opium of the poor.
These welfare programs and public housing were intended to be temporary solutions. Now you have people in 'the system' for life and as we know there is a lot of crime and other issues associated with that.
What will Trump do differently? Welfare is state based so what will Trump do different at the federal level? Will he end the business of transferring welfare recipients to disability? Will he raise the standards so some guy with high blood pressure doesn't qualify?
If someone's high blood pressure is uncontrolled and prevents the person from holding down a job then the person is disabled.
Oh, so it is the Lawyers you hate, now we are getting to the root of the issue for you. Then maybe SS should not automatically turn down the initial claim and then the first appeal and require more legal assistance. FYI one does not need a lawyer, what they need is an advocate to knows how the system works and get someone a court date in less than 2 years, there are people that specialize in it because the way the system works or should I say does not work.
This is a combination of a unemployed people with limited job prospects using lawyers and a system that allows them to claim lifelong disability payments over things like high blood pressure and diabetes, both that are treatable with medication. It's a system where states that are paying welfare payments are motivated to pay third party companies $2300 per claim to move them to disability so the states don't have to pay welfare anymore. These disability payments are coming out of the Social Security budget which Republicans love to say is going broke and these disability payments are costing us $260 billion dollars.
This is a combination of a unemployed people with limited job prospects using lawyers and a system that allows them to claim lifelong disability payments over things like high blood pressure and diabetes, both that are treatable with medication. It's a system where states that are paying welfare payments are motivated to pay third party companies $2300 per claim to move them to disability so the states don't have to pay welfare anymore. These disability payments are coming out of the Social Security budget which Republicans love to say is going broke and these disability payments are costing us $260 billion dollars.
You seem to make the mistake of thinking this can't be changed too.
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