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Old 01-20-2017, 11:09 PM
 
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There are a few left (like Joe Manchin of WV, Joe Donolly of Indiana, and maybe Claire McCaskill of Missouri), but not many.

As it seems to me, when one party is doing well electorally (as Republicans are now), the opposition party seems to lose quite a few of its moderates. Many of those moderates come from states that are generally regarded as friendly territory for the other party, so they get wiped out easily by the more dominant party.

For example, Mary Landreu was a moderate Democratic senator from Louisiana for years. She was beaten by Republican Bill Cassidy in the 2014 mid-terms.
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Old 01-20-2017, 11:10 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Bernie. Oh, wait...he's doesn't even pretend to be a Democrat anymore.
Bernie never registered as a Democrat.
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Old 01-20-2017, 11:22 PM
 
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There are plenty of democrats who are only liberal on issues the big money (donors) allow them to be liberal on. Big money donors allow liberalism on some issues, the most common example is of course social issues.
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Old 01-20-2017, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Bernie never registered as a Democrat.
Technically true-Vermont apparently doesn't do registration by party. Even though he RAN as a Democrat.

There are a few sensible, moderate Democrats, that appear to have SOME clue about economics. Jim Webb is one. Tim Ryan. Tulsi Gabbard isn't a complete nut. But the few voices of reason are drowned out by all the far-left nuts that have taken over so much of the party. Remember when there was a time that the Democrats were the party of working people? Sadly, they have been abandoned to draw in people that never intend to work for a living. The entitled, gimme free stuff crowd now, sadly, has taken over the party.
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Old 01-20-2017, 11:29 PM
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Technically true-Vermont apparently doesn't do registration by party. Even though he RAN as a Democrat.
He ran as an independent for all his senate races, and running for federal office does not make you a party member.


So again, Bernie has never been a democrats, he ran for the nomination of the Democratic Party.
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Old 01-20-2017, 11:38 PM
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There are a few sensible, moderate Democrats, that appear to have SOME clue about economics. Jim Webb is one. Tim Ryan. Tulsi Gabbard isn't a complete nut. But the few voices of reason are drowned out by all the far-left nuts that have taken over so much of the party. Remember when there was a time that the Democrats were the party of working people? Sadly, they have been abandoned to draw in people that never intend to work for a living. The entitled, gimme free stuff crowd now, sadly, has taken over the party.
As I have stated before, Tim Ryan, and even Gabbard have the same voting record as Nancy Pelosi.

The truth is that most people judge politicians by perception rather than reality.
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Old 01-21-2017, 12:15 AM
 
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Is there such a thing as a DINO?

No: because the difference between a "progressive" Democrat (about the only variety left) and an avowed Marxist isn't one of orientation -- but only of intensity. They're all suspicious and resentful toward market-driven solutions -- when they're not downright afraid of them, and for reasons which should be obvious.
My hubby's a definite lefty for that reason -- He doesn't trust market driven solutions, because the only oversight would be by the companies themselves, who have only one priority: more money for themselves. In a pure libertarian free market environment, customers could do their best to patronize eco-friendly companies, but without official universal oversight, that company could just claim to be the most eco-friendly, and even if they're really not, there is little accountability.
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Old 01-21-2017, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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There aren't any left.
They were once called blue dogs, but they are all long gone now. Just like their contemporaries, the moderate Republicans.

The middle seems to exist only out in the streets nowadays. In the halls of Congress, no one walks down the middle of nothing. That's political suicide these days in both parties, it appears. That won't change unless congenial, civilized opposition and disagreement starts winning more elections than mud throwing.
I'd say there's one left, Joe Manchin of West Virginia. Notwithstanding their pattern of voting Republican in presidential elections, WV's internal politics has remained quite blue. But that's starting to fade and WV will probably follow its southern contemporaries' transition from blue to red within the next couple of election cycles. Manchin is walking a tight rope as this transition takes place, and depending on each party's political fortunes by then I wouldn't be surprised to see him switch parties to save his seat in the 2018 election cycle.
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Old 01-21-2017, 12:30 AM
 
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As I have stated before, Tim Ryan, and even Gabbard have the same voting record as Nancy Pelosi.

The truth is that most people judge politicians by perception rather than reality.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.42e680a75c71

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Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii), who has charged the Obama administration with funneling money to the Islamic State and al-Qaeda-linked groups in Syria, visited Damascus this week on what her office called a “fact-finding trip . . . to promote and work for peace.”

Gabbard’s office, which did not announce the trip, said that for security reasons it would release no details on the trip until her return, including whether she met with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

“She felt it was important to meet with a number of individuals and groups including religious leaders, humanitarian workers, refugees and government and community leaders,” Gabbard spokeswoman Emily Latimer said in a statement
I don't know-that doesn't sound like Pelosi. She has never questioned Obama about a thing.
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