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Old 01-21-2017, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I watched both Canadian (more of this) and American coverage - the slant in the commentary was the problem and that was the media's responsibility. There were loads of pictures of the area from high up so you could see how many appeared to be there. But there was also a constant stream of comments about how it seemed there weren't many there. There were certainly enough people but I suspect there were still a lot trying to get in - security was slow and protesters blocked several entry points I believe.


All that said though, other than the fact that the commentary stunk, I don't really know why it matters how many were there, one way or the other - as long as those who wanted to be there were able to get there and to get in where they could see. Obama's first inauguration attendance number was more than an anomaly because of what we were not supposed to notice or care about .. 'his uniqueness'. His second was fairly lackluster.


I could not find a channel that was not constantly comparing everything to Obama, his tenure, his inauguration, his everything. The only time things were true and fair to Trump was when they stopped talking. I think that is much more critical to note than the actual number of attendees.


But, honestly, what everyone may need to get used to is that this is the age of pretty good coverage (with respect to the pictures, not the commentary) so many were watching at home - they also didn't have the funds to go with hotel prices so high, etc. - on tv or the internet. I know I got a better vantage point and probably could hear the proceedings better from in front of my tv than I would have had in person - and I was warmer and drier too.


Even if the actual numbers in attendance were lower than they were for some other President's first inaugurations, that certainly didn't mean that Mr. Trump didn't have a LOT of support and admiration yesterday as we watched him take his oath (from afar). Many of Trump's supporters live nowhere close by and a lot were at work - it was a 'holiday' I understand in much of DC but not so elsewhere.
Tell all that to Trump and see if he abandons his childish pettiness

 
Old 01-21-2017, 08:14 PM
 
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bwahahahahahaahaahahahahahahahahaha

"it was the white grass coverings that made it look empty"


hahahahahahaha....they are really clinching their cheeks over attendance.
 
Old 01-21-2017, 08:19 PM
 
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Silent majority people don't make a lot of waves but when we do it usually registers but we have some really dumb people in the USA who didn't get the message. Hope they wise up soon.

Keep on calling us names. That's the best motivation for the reason Hillary lost. D. C. is about the last place I want to be.

The truth will set us free. Trumps speech was truth. I am happy he won. And when you look at that county map of all the counties he won in America, most of American geography voted for him. I think that makes the news agencies working against him look really dumb. You would think their ratings would give them a clue.
Bolded above. You are correct and those people are blindly supporting the Predator-in-Chief. Seems the suporters are just as wacky as their childish leader.
 
Old 01-21-2017, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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THIS has you hating the administration?

THIS affects your life in no way, shape, or form.

Save your ammo for when his decisions affects your life. Otherwise, try not to concern yourself with it too much that you go to "hate" status.
Why would Trump waste his time on insisting on his own reality? This is a red flag for something scary!
 
Old 01-21-2017, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Old 01-21-2017, 08:28 PM
 
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Tell all that to Trump and see if he abandons his childish pettiness

I think there is a pretty good chance that there was indeed a larger audience (when one includes all foreign and domestic broadcasts that covered the inauguration) at this ceremony than there was even for Obama's first one. There were probably not as many on the Mall itself but the audience was much larger than that. The issue here is that the media was focussing only on who was there in person and that was not fair.


Again though, I don't think it matters how many people watched or were there. Just as I hope the same holds true for the 'marches' in the US and elsewhere today. What matters is that the inauguration was held, that it went well, that the candidate who won the election was duly sworn in (and apparently didn't even have to have a backroom ceremony to make that legal!).


I am not totally sure that those who think Trump is the idiot here quite understand what the real issue was. The real issue is, in my estimation, that the networks slanted the commentary and they did frame the pictures along with doing that to intimate that there weren't even as many people there in person as there probably were and I never heard one mention that the worldwide audience was immense! But I will put it on Spicer and anyone else who spoke for Trump, and on Trump too, for not making that so perfectly clear that it could not be warped by everyone now. They obviously have something to learn about making sure their points are as clear as possible so the story cannot be messed with afterwards.


The MSM has NOT played fair during this whole campaign and they didn't do much better for this event - though I did notice moments where they used more 'skill and cunning' to veil their slurs, using more subtlety than normal - I am not sure I would call that much improvement though. Trump is trying to give them another chance after they treated him (and the audiences - and that means even you anti-Trumpers, maybe especially you) badly for so long - but I would not blame him if he begins to pull credentials soon if they keep this up. But, that doesn't mean that Trump's side doesn't need to figure out a better way to 'communicate' either. They will get the hang of it soon I hope. This was just day 1.5.
 
Old 01-21-2017, 08:30 PM
 
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Why would Trump waste his time on insisting on his own reality? This is a red flag for something scary!
Could very well be. If Trump can convince his supporters to believe anything he says (and it appears to be the case) then when there is something serious to deny, he has them trained to believe whatever he says. They say the Nigerian Prince scams are deliberately obvious because they are looking for targets most easy to persuade.
 
Old 01-21-2017, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Imagine Lincoln or Roosevelt complaining about crowd size or anyone for that matter, doesn't he have more important things to work on.
 
Old 01-21-2017, 08:31 PM
 
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well frankly Trump Was the one who started all this. CNN went out of its way to not embarrass him, they decided not to even talk numbers and I saw them telling guests not to too.

Then TRump started more lies all over again, lied about crowd sizes, and then lied about who started his fight with our security services....

"disgraceful" is what he called the intelligence services.. and then he went on to accuse the media of making it sound like feud...

How do we trust Trump under any serious circumstances when we already know he will always lie to make himself look good.

He is doing this now to setup up the media as liars when they call for him to be impeached. He is discrediting every group that may challenge him in the future...
 
Old 01-21-2017, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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I think there is a pretty good chance that there was indeed a larger audience (when one includes all foreign and domestic broadcasts that covered the inauguration) at this ceremony than there was even for Obama's first one. There were probably not as many on the Mall itself but the audience was much larger than that. The issue here is that the media was focussing only on who was there in person and that was not fair.
I actually doubt that.

This is anecdotal, I know, but I went to a movie theater, that was sold out, to watch the inauguration in 2009. Out of curiosity, I checked this year, and the theater was not showing the inauguration.

Also, there were "probably" not as many on the Mall? How about there were DEFINITELY not as many on the Mall.

You sound like Trump when you question something that is obviously a fact.

At least make an excuse, like "D.C. and it's suburbs are filled with liberals," or "it was raining." Don't say there is some doubt about whether Trump or Obama had more people attend his inauguration.
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