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Old 01-23-2017, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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There's that, plus having an avowed woman-molester in office is pretty bizarre.
Yeah Bill Clinton was a sly one.......

 
Old 01-23-2017, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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Originally Posted by Kaitlyn05 View Post
Hillary only won the popular vote on paper. Take away all the millions of illegals that voted, who should never have been able to register to vote in the first place. Also, the voter fraud that occurred in many precincts, especially in large cities. Hillary received many more votes than people registered to vote, so there were votes for her being counted multiple times. Take ALL those illegal votes away, then Trump has won the popular vote by a landslide.


By the way, I am a white woman, and I voted for Trump.
There was no voter fraud anywhere....stop lieing...your bible says it's wrong.
 
Old 01-23-2017, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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At this point, Pandora's box is open. They can certainly repeal ACA, but failure to replace it post hasted with something else would be political suicide. Failure to maintain the "good parts" of ACA would be political suicide as well, so pre-existing conditions laws aren't going away. The underlying thing is that the repeal of ACA is a huge part of what got the Republicans elected this year. Working class America is suffering tremendously under Obamacare and the Democrats don't seem to give a damn. We'll have to wait and see what the Republicans come up with as a replacement, but I expect you're going to be just fine.

The single biggest issue that women's rights groups are concerned about is truthfully abortion and the continued funding of Planned Parenthood ... but for some reason, they don't want to come right out and say that.

I found this to be interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKIOBOFaVYs

Your little youtube ignores one BIG point. {not surprising considering it is a heavily BIASED source}


MOST women who are planning to go the adoption route do not go to PP in the first place, why would they? PP is not an adoption agency. There are many other resources they use, adoption agencies abound.....that isn't the case for abortion services.


Women who plan to end their pregnancies go to PP specifically for that purpose.


Nice try.
 
Old 01-23-2017, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Your little youtube ignores one BIG point. {not surprising considering it is a heavily BIASED source}


MOST women who are planning to go the adoption route do not go to PP in the first place, why would they? PP is not an adoption agency. There are many other resources they use, adoption agencies abound.....that isn't the case for abortion services.


Women who plan to end their pregnancies go to PP specifically for that purpose.


Nice try.
Hold on now. PP is supposed to be about women's health. Wouldn't pregnancy be in the realm of women's health? Perhaps I missed your point. And why wouldn't PP also advocate adoption and help women who want to go that route instead? They are missing an opportunity to help women there. But that would go to the heart of what PP is about, right? Is it really about being an abortion provider with other women's services tacked on to gain federal funding or is it primarily a clinic for women's health that also provides abortions? If the latter, they should and would welcome connecting women with unwanted pregnancies with adoption options as well.
 
Old 01-23-2017, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Your little youtube ignores one BIG point. {not surprising considering it is a heavily BIASED source}
Many supporters of continued funding of Planned Parenthood use PP themselves as a source for facts. Clearly they too are a biased source.

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MOST women who are planning to go the adoption route do not go to PP in the first place, why would they? PP is not an adoption agency. There are many other resources they use, adoption agencies abound.....that isn't the case for abortion services.

Women who plan to end their pregnancies go to PP specifically for that purpose.

Nice try.
I'm not really sure what you think my point was, but clearly you missed it. The thread asked the question, "What rights are women losing?" My answer is abortion and abortion rights. PP tries to claim that abortion plays an incredibly minor role in their operations and services. The video debunks that claim. We can fully anticipate that the ACA will be repealed and replaced and that PP will lose all federal funding before the end of the year -- probably before the end of the next month. A new pro-life Supreme Court Justice will also be confirmed in that same timeframe. That's not even me taking a side, it's just facts.
 
Old 01-23-2017, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Oh? There was a policy put forth by Trump that changes a woman's ability to get an abortion? Wow, I missed that.

On vocational jobs, you're at least my age so I'm sure you remember votech (I'm pretty sure!). Everything from electricians to welders to car repair to cosmetology. Yes these still exist at junior college but it was a great option and choice for those students who couldn't and wouldn't ever go to college and they didn't have to take out student loans to pay for it. They took business math instead of calculus, etc. Nothing wrong with the skilled trades and any or all of those women could be equally employed in as men. One can earn a decent living in those skilled trades.
Yea, I guess you did. He made it a point, MANY times, that he intends to appoint a pro-life justice to the Supreme Court with the intent of overturning Roe v Wade.


I wasn't speaking of men vs woman in regards to high and low paying jobs.


I was speaking to the FACT that there are men and women who do not have the ability to attain a college degree or learn a SKILLED trade.


I cannot think of one high paying SKILLED trade that doesn't require a proficiency in math.....something not everyone is capable of.
 
Old 01-23-2017, 01:28 PM
 
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The Supreme Court decided in 1973 that abortion was lawful. According to the Right abortion rights can be reversed. They are already closing clinics in many right wing states to the point where a woman must leave the state to end a pregnancy.

We men are great at convincing women that they will see the second coming of Christ if they say yes. It's also men who are at the forefront of the anti abortion movement for some reason and at the back of the line for child support.
This was occurring under the Obama administration.
 
Old 01-23-2017, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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It was better to stop it before it started, nothing has changed and it's just like it was under Obama for 8 years. You can't think about homeownership if you are on welfare without a job so I don't know what your point is.
My point is that we are talking about a President who supposedly cares about the poor and middle class and his first act is to do away with a proposed cut to FHA insurance rates.
 
Old 01-23-2017, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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PRECISELY! And women have the exact same choice, which no one trying to take from them! I'm totally pro-choice; women should be free to choose to abstain or not abstain.Right, because a man being legally obligated to support a child for 18 years leaves him with "no real skin in the game". There's no impact on a man's life if he gets a girl pregnant...
There is no impact on his health...on his body.
 
Old 01-23-2017, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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And yet there's nothing wrong with ObamaCare increasing the premiums to the point that insurers cannot afford the insurance, nor do they qualify for subsidies? And the annual deductible is so high that the insurer will not be able to use the insurance at all?
Had Obama told the truth about his plan in the first place he would not have been elected.
The rates would have gone up faster without the ACA. What will probably happen with the new administration is that rates will drop on young healthy people and go up dramatically for older, sicker people. There will be caps on annual and lifetime limits and insurers will have the ability to cancel people without cause and deny coverage for pre-existing conditions. The only other way to lower rates is to cap fees paid to providers and that is certainly not something Tom Price would advocate for given how much money he has received from doctors and hospitals
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