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Well done, Finn. Simply starting this thread got Trump supporters mightily upset. Rather like some suspect that the economy will dove-tail based on Trump's isolationist/tariff policies, and would rather not have a running record of it.
Yes, during the past six years or so, it was enjoyable for some to say "falling unemployment and rising stock market is bad", without any logical basis for such arguments. What is the old saying? "The empty jug sounds loudest"?
Well done, Finn. Simply starting this thread got Trump supporters mightily upset. Rather like some suspect that the economy will dove-tail based on Trump's isolationist/tariff policies, and would rather not have a running record of it.
Yes, during the past six years or so, it was enjoyable for some to say "falling unemployment and rising stock market is bad", without any logical basis for such arguments. What is the old saying? "The empty jug sounds loudest"?
Sad!
It sure seems like they worry the new policies will fail, and they are making pre-emptive arguments to say its beyond anyone's control.
The new admin just handed full control of Asian markets to China by tossing TPP, and China is already working on a deal of their own with Japan, Australia, South Korea and even Latin America to create a new economic alliance. US exited the arena without getting anything in return, and now China is in position to put us at a disadvantage by countering Trump's proposed tariffs on Chinese goods by imposing tariffs on US goods not only to China, but to any member nation of the new alliance. Not only will imports cost more in US, but US goods will also cost more around the world, which means people won't buy them.
Well done, Finn. Simply starting this thread got Trump supporters mightily upset. Rather like some suspect that the economy will dove-tail based on Trump's isolationist/tariff policies, and would rather not have a running record of it.
Yes, during the past six years or so, it was enjoyable for some to say "falling unemployment and rising stock market is bad", without any logical basis for such arguments. What is the old saying? "The empty jug sounds loudest"?
Sad!
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
It sure seems like they worry the new policies will fail, and they are making pre-emptive arguments to say its beyond anyone's control.
The new admin just handed full control of Asian markets to China by tossing TPP, and China is already working on a deal of their own with Japan, Australia, South Korea and even Latin America to create a new economic alliance. US exited the arena without getting anything in return, and now China is in position to put us at a disadvantage by countering Trump's proposed tariffs on Chinese goods by imposing tariffs on US goods not only to China, but to any member nation of the new alliance. Not only will imports cost more in US, but US goods will also cost more around the world, which means people won't buy them.
Funny, I've said it right in this thread that I don't support Trump. I was anti Trump and Hillary during the entire election cycle and suppoorted Gary Johnson. Prior to that I have never supported a Dem or Rep candidate here.
Saying that "the Trump supporters are upset" is nothing more than a convenient way to ditch the responsibility of responding to the questions I've posed and ignore the research I pointed out that says these trying to use the metrics mentioned here are misleading. The target from the OP seems to have jumped from "POTUS" to "Administration" to "everyone" and really holds no water at this point, unless I'm missing something.
It sure seems like they worry the new policies will fail, and they are making pre-emptive arguments to say its beyond anyone's control.
The new admin just handed full control of Asian markets to China by tossing TPP, and China is already working on a deal of their own with Japan, Australia, South Korea and even Latin America to create a new economic alliance. US exited the arena without getting anything in return, and now China is in position to put us at a disadvantage by countering Trump's proposed tariffs on Chinese goods by imposing tariffs on US goods not only to China, but to any member nation of the new alliance. Not only will imports cost more in US, but US goods will also cost more around the world, which means people won't buy them.
By getting involved with it in the first place, don't you think that was the problem? Eventually Hillary, Bernie, and man Republicans were opposed to it. Getting out of it may be the right thing, but we probably shouldn't have been there to begin with. How do you propose you "score" the results of the prior administrations long term mistake with the current administration fixing it despite short term negative impacts? This illustrates part of my point and the same can be said of the ACA. The lines are so blurry and the overlap is beyond measure.
You can't use Obama-math to pull your stats. The actual unemployment rate is around 11%.
The DOW changes from time time. Companies are removed and others are added to that index.
You think that Trump is going to show an 11% unemployment rate on his watch?
Trump????
When pigs fly.
If anything, if the next rate isn't lower than it was when Obama left office, he'll probably claim that the numbers are lies.
Why not measure things that the POTUS actually does, like start/end wars, authorized drone strikes to kill terrorists (both legally and American citizens not given due process),constitutional rights violated, campaign promises kept/ignored?
The righties are in full back pedal mode. The president now has no power over these things.
However when Obama was in office the secret "real" unemployment rate of 20 whatever percent certainly was placed on his shoulders.
Now that they are in power they are too gutless to own it. THAT is what's funny.
Yep.
All of those who made sure we knew that they voted for Trump because HE, and HE alone could brings jobs back are now claiming that the president has no control over employment in this country.
All of those who made sure we knew that they voted for Trump because HE, and HE alone could brings jobs back are now claiming that the president has no control over employment in this country.
It's so funny, I forgot to laugh.
Again, you have the wrong idea here. I'm pretty much the lone source of push back here, and I never supported Trump.
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