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The United States doesn't need allies. That's all there is to it.
And those countries who acted as allies in good faith can go hump it. US treaty obligations are subject to whim and convenience. If that's the nation you want to be, well... Good luck with your foreign relations, you'll need it.
The United States doesn't need allies. That's all there is to it.
Then we had better stop asking for them. I recall that after 9-11, the US asked for assistance even though we were the only ones attacked. We then asked for more assistance regarding the ill fated invasion of Iraq. Until we stop asking for assistance, we need to treat allies like... allies.
That includes Poland especially as they did not put creative limitations on the assistance they provided (no night patrols, no combat patrols, units cant leave their base etc.). Rather, US commanders noted that the Polish military performed well and could be committed to the same level as American units. This saved American lives.
Pretty much what he's doing now by going after former USSR nations. He already has the 1/3rd of Poland the USSR took during WW2 to create Belarus and Ukraine while allied with Germany and never returned. There is nothing in Poland that Russia needs or wants.
Pretty much what he's doing now by going after former USSR nations. He already has the 1/3rd of Poland the USSR took during WW2 to create Belarus and Ukraine while allied with Germany and never returned. There is nothing in Poland that Russia needs or wants.
I agree with you that Putin does not need anything physically from Poland, but in furtherance of his plans regarding the re-creation of the Soviet / Czarist empire, he needs independent Poland to shut up politically and to be beat down economically.
Relative to the area, Poland is an economically successful nation and has been very vocal against Putin's re-establishment of any sort of empire. As Poland shares a similar culture / language to Putin's target countries and has a working economy, Poland has increased influence in Ukraine and Belarus.
For example, many of the adamant "not going back to the Empire" type politicians in Belarus and Ukraine point to Poland as a realistic alternative goal for their nations rather than being a member of an empire based on the Russian socio political example. If Poland could be reduced politically and economically, then their influence would be reduced and Putin may have an easier time.
I agree with you that Putin does not need anything physically from Poland, but in furtherance of his plans regarding the re-creation of the Soviet / Czarist empire, he needs independent Poland to shut up politically and to be beat down economically.
Relative to the area, Poland is an economically successful nation and has been very vocal against Putin's re-establishment of any sort of empire. As Poland shares a similar culture / language to Putin's target countries and has a working economy, Poland has increased influence in Ukraine and Belarus.
For example, many of the adamant "not going back to the Empire" type politicians in Belarus and Ukraine point to Poland as a realistic alternative goal for their nations rather than being a member of an empire based on the Russian socio political example. If Poland could be reduced politically and economically, then their influence would be reduced and Putin may have an easier time.
Look up the history of Poland, they've had land swap wars with Russia going back over a 100 years. Neither side is the "good" side. This one of the last stupidities of the Obama Administration needs to be reversed. This in a way is basically a Hatfields versus the McCoys situation.
Look up the history of Poland, they've had land swap wars with Russia going back over a 100 years. Neither side is the "good" side. This one of the last stupidities of the Obama Administration needs to be reversed. This in a way is basically a Hatfields versus the McCoys situation.
I can agree with that in regards that both eastern Europe as a lot of mutual feuds regarding "who wronged who first, why and how much".
These "he said, she said" type feuds going back centuries, however, do not change the fact of the historical present: Putin (rightly or wrongly) wants yet another land swap via strong arming certain countries* back into an empire. Thus, it is Russia, and not Poland that is currently destabilizing the area by trying to force a redrawing of the existing map. Indirectly, Poland is making Putin's desired land swap harder to accomplish.
Now, if Poland was currently saying: "In the recent past, we controlled parts of Belarus, Ukraine. In the distant past, we controlled even more, and even had some parts of Russia proper. We need to strong arm certain regions back into an Empire and re-draw the current map to reflect our glory days.... ." I would put the blame on Poland. But, they are not doing that.
Last edited by Cryptic; 01-26-2017 at 09:00 AM..
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