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Old 04-27-2018, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Magritte25 View Post
Depending on the crime, I see no reason why a felon shouldn't be allowed to work in someone's home or around kids. People have a really juvenile view of crime and punishment.
If someone has a violent crime conviction, they shouldn't be allowed to work with children. Perhaps there should be exceptions, such as something that occurred 20 years ago and the person has had a clean record since then. But even so, it is still risky to have a person like that working with kids.
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Old 04-27-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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I have not once said "let a felon work around your kids or home". However, for those who keep bringing this up, where is the best place for a felon to work, once out of prison? I ask because ex-felons have to work somewhere. Unless you plan on keeping someone in prison for life, that is something that needs to be considered.

For you.

They should work for you.
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Old 04-27-2018, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Boston
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they don't need to ask, they can find out.
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Old 04-27-2018, 02:56 PM
 
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they don't need to ask, they can find out.
True ban the box doesn’t forbid employers from refusing to hire ex convicts. Nor does it eliminate any background check requirements for certain positions. It only prevents employers from threatening to discriminate based on the choice the job seeker on the application. The employer is always free to run a background check.

There are plenty of examples of people being denied not because they were a violent criminal in the past but because they didn’t include an embarrassing youthful mistake that might not even fit the definition of a crime to the lay man on their application.
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Old 04-27-2018, 06:39 PM
 
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For you.

They should work for you.
If I have money to pay someone, perhaps. However, I don't. I'm unemployed myself right now (and I don't have a criminal record, so imagine how much harder it is for someone with a criminal record to get a job).

Now, what should an ex-felon do once out of prison? Said person can't live off of the system. One has to work.

I'm guessing that the reason you suggested that they work for me has to do with you not having any answers.
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Old 04-27-2018, 06:44 PM
 
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Do you realize people who have done time or been convicted of assault type crimes are never required to register on any kind of list? sex offenses usually require a 10 yr or lifetime registration, but no one seems to care about ex cons who have assault or worse convictions? LOL Thats kind of absurd imo. I would very much like to be informed if someone was living nearby that had an assault conviction!!!
That is something I don't think about. However, when it comes to getting guns, they do background checks, and make sure felons can't get guns. As for sex offenders, there are some that don't register. And a sex offender can be purged from the rolls.
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Old 04-27-2018, 06:47 PM
 
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I have not once said "let a felon work around your kids or home". However, for those who keep bringing this up, where is the best place for a felon to work, once out of prison? I ask because ex-felons have to work somewhere. Unless you plan on keeping someone in prison for life, that is something that needs to be considered.
A long time ago I had a boss who hired homeless folks with Felonies. He believed in giving folks second chances.

And honestly? It worked about half the time. The other half flaked or were just horrible people. But for those that it helped? He made a difference in a ton of folks's lives. One of our lead foreman had been homeless, and a felon-a previously violent felon. He went from homeless and hopeless, to successful and happy.

Felons arent all monsters.
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Old 04-27-2018, 06:56 PM
 
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What about schools and daycare centers?
Unfortunately, schools are in real trouble today. Not from Ban the Box. Instead, from the mass shooting epidemic.
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Old 04-27-2018, 06:59 PM
 
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Unfortunately, schools are in real trouble today. Not from Ban the Box. Instead, from the mass shooting epidemic.
Maybe they should hire felons who were convicted of weapon crimes. I mean hey....at least they know how to handle guns....
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Old 04-30-2018, 04:17 AM
 
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What about schools and daycare centers?
That's been addressed numerous times...
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