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Old 01-23-2017, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Florida
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WOW!! Teamsters Respond to TPP Withdrawal – PRAISE TRUMP!
No one praises Trump over this more than China. With TPP gone, they now hold the keys to kingdom (Asian market).

"Trump has single-handedly given away an enormous source of leverage over China. The first rule of negotiating is don't give away something for nothing, and he's done that right off the bat." - Edward Alden, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations

"It will create an opening for China to rewrite the economic rules of the road at the expense of American workers," John McCain.
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Old 01-23-2017, 04:07 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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So, not only have the media lost the white middle class, after 0bama wrote them off, but now they are losing the unions too?
You will soon see a shift at the top of the Teamsters as the rank & file members no longer want their union dues going to support the DNC. Pity the fool who runs for President of the union and doesn't recognize this.

More startling than the Teamsters walking away from the Dems is the NEA, the single largest labor union in the United States and the home of the teachers union. It's estimated that 1/3 of teachers voted Trump. The NEA is beside itself about this, but it is the trend and will continue so long as the union cowers every time a group like BLM yells "racism" at them.

The Democrats have simply abandoned their bread and butter. They now openly mock farmers, union members, laborers, etc. as uneducated, racist, etc. The DNC now consists of elite Whites who're unaffected by illegals stealing their jobs, crime in their neighborhoods or their kids attending dangerous schools. They sit in their ivory towers and shout down to the rest of us what we can or can not say, how we should think, who we should vote for, etc. They have pushed away the moderates and the middle class is leaving them in droves.
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Old 01-23-2017, 04:34 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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It's the democrats who have the economic elites on their side, not conservative Republicans.
All republican economic policy caters to the elites (richest 1%.)

R. Reagan started supply side/trickle down economics (which are literally tax cuts for the very rich and large corporations.)

GW Bush's tax cuts gave 51.8% of their benefits to the richest 1%.
Bush Tax Cuts After 2002: June 2002 CTJ Analysis

Mitt Romney's proposed $6.6 trillion dollar tax cut gave 100% of their benefits to the richest 1% and large corporations.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...-6-6-trillion/

And Donald Trumps tax policies will give 47% of their benefits to the richest 1% (raising middle class Americans after tax income by 1% and raising the richest 1% of Americans after tax income by 13%.)
Forbes Welcome

How can republicans be the anti-elite party when their entire economic policy involves giving the richest 1% of Americans tax cuts?

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When the dems start tossing around trillion dollar deficits, all they did was cater to the wealthy elites.
According to the libertarian CATO institute our trillion dollar deficit was caused by GW Bush (not B. Obama.)

https://www.cato.org/blog/dont-blame...s-2009-deficit

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0bama added $10 trillion to the debt,
What policies did Obama enact or support that added $10 trillion dollars to our national debt?

But the fact is every republican in this forum working together could not answer the above question because Obama's policies did not add $10 trillion dollars to our national debt.

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and who got rich, it was not the poor. 0bama added tens of millions of new poor, and to Food Stamps and Welfare and Medicaid. It was the top 1% who got richer under 0bama. It's the dems who have the "economic elites" in their back pocket.
Above you claim that Obama made the rich richer and the poor poorer.

But Obama tried to raise taxes on the richest 1% of Americans with a law called the "Buffet Rule" (but the republicans in congress stopped this law from passing.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffett_Rule

Obama also tried to raise the min wage, give the middle class tax cuts, give small business owners tax cuts, lower credit card interest rates, and lower student loan interest rates. All of those actions would have given the poor and regular Americans extra money and stopped many of them from needing welfare and Medicaid (but republicans in congress stopped all those laws from passing.)

GOP Senators Reject Tax Cuts for Middle Class - CBS News

GOP Blocks Senate Small-Business Tax Cut Bill

GOP Blocks Freeze On Credit Card Interest Rate Hikes | The Huffington Post

Republicans Screw Over 37 Million by Blocking Bill Lowering Student Loan Interest Rates


How can you blame Obama for making the rich richer and the poor poorer when Obama tried to raise taxes on the richest 1% and give money to regular Americans with higher wages, tax cuts, and lower interest rates?

It was republicans in congress that made the rich richer and the poor poorer by blocking Obama's laws that would have taken money from the richest 1% and given money to the poor and middle class.

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Old 01-23-2017, 04:39 PM
 
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All i heard was negativity towards it, a couple of years ago. And now that Trump got us out of it, it is a terrible thing.
I still thing he did the right thing.

Trade Agreements Reveal How Life Will be Organized in 2050 | The Huffington Post

8 Terrible Things About the Trans-Pacific Partnership - In These Times

Full TPP Text Reveals A Very Bad Deal for America - Breitbart

Trans-Pacific Partnership Is a Bad Deal for American Workers
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Old 01-23-2017, 04:41 PM
 
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That said, I don't think that this is deal is going to have the intended impact that the OP is crowing about.
I think it's clear the Democrats are in the process of losing a huge voting block. i.e. organized (non-public) labor.

TPP was a horrible trade deal, and one of the reasons that Hillary's "Blue Wall" collapsed.
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Old 01-23-2017, 04:45 PM
 
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The Democratic Party lost its way when it placed the needs of the investors over the needs of the workers. Now that the Clinton Cabal has destroyed itself we have to rebuild our party to represent the workers of our country and leave the economic elites to the Republicans. This will not be easy but will be necessary.
I agree. This will probably be one of the very very few good things to come out of the Trump presidency. Everything else is lunatic wing nuttery
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Old 01-23-2017, 04:48 PM
 
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Members of many labor unions have not supported Ds since the teamsters endorsed Reagan. The leadership might have endorsed and contributed to Ds, but people voted Republican.
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Old 01-23-2017, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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The TPP was already dead in the water before Trump was even elected. He just took credit for nothing he did.
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Old 01-23-2017, 09:08 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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How come the Russians, union bosses and other commies are happiest about everything Trump does?


Because, he just freed the entire world from the globalist evil, trying to run the world from the UN, for their profit...
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Old 01-23-2017, 09:24 PM
 
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Teamsters, once a huge voting block for Democrats now praise Trump for looking out for the American Worker. Trump has saved over 1M jobs before taking office, and now that he has single handily killed Obama's TPP, millions more will be saved.

Looks as if the Democrat party is in the process of losing a huge voting block that it once could always count on.

BOOM! Teamsters Respond to TPP Withdrawal - PRAISE TRUMP!
No, you are not right at all. Yes, unions hated TPP but that's only one policy that they didn't agree on with Obama. It's funny how Trump only had the building trades at his meeting. He didn't invite the teamsters or many other union leaders.
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