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Old 01-24-2017, 02:30 PM
 
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
....however, it's early. So...

He's said a few stupid things, but that's to be expected from someone as garrulous as he is.

Moreover, I take no issue with him pulling outta the TPP. Dems should've told Obama to drop it. Hopefully, Trump will find a way to wiggle out of some of these other trade agreements.

His speech to the CEO's was actually a good one...if he means it. Again, this is something that a Democratic president should've said to CEO's years ago. Funny thing is, if Obama or Clinton had sat CEO's down and threatened them this way, Republicans would've had a fit. But right now, they're scared to say anything in the face of Trump's populism.

The other things that Trump has done or said are just grandstanding. Federal employment freeze? Meh...bloviating. Obama did that already. Besides, if you're exempting the Pentagon, it's a waste of time.

That Mexico City abortion thing? Meaningless. Next Dem president will reverse it.

Cutting regulations by 75%? Yeah...OK.

More tax cuts? The Republican cure for cancer and Ebola. Unless he can figure out how to fill that revenue hole (and don't tell me that it'll be filled with all the jobs he'll create...I'm not falling for that one), I'm not paying that any attention. Not worth bothering with.

So overall, I'm giving him a passing grade as I see what the overall tone of his administration will be. And I'll avoid being overly critical until then.

All these stupid controversies about crowd sizes, false media, his son Barron, his tax returns, etc...not worth my time. Folks should just drop it.

What DOES interest me however is this: forget the Democrats! Trump is charting a course that is set to collide big time with the orthodoxy of his party. The TPP pullout hasn't raised much rancor in Republican circles for all to hear, but there's no doubt that certain Repubs are seething.

Of course, I'm getting a good laugh at Republican voters pretending as if they've been against these free trade agreements all along. We all know that it total bullshucks and a complete canard. As this link I'm about to post points out, Republicans have been in the forefront of these agreements right from the beginning...and this most certainly sets up for an interesting showdown between Trump and the corporate Republicans in Congress ....which is almost EVERY Republican in Washington. Love it or hate it, that's the truth.

Anyway, I'm placing my bets with Mr Trump in the battle.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...2e5a8#comments
I agree mostly with what you said what a shock eh...lol...I was against those trade treaties and voted for Ross Perot I was ready for a little pain but now it will be excruciating pain with the 20 trillion dollar debt.
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Old 01-24-2017, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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Who is pretending that "there is no such thing as climate change?"

And when has Trump proposed that "LGBT citizens should not be treated equally?"
I guess cause Obama's Whitehouse.gov website got archived, that got turned into "Climate Change and LGBT rights are now taken away!"
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Old 01-24-2017, 02:33 PM
 
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Originally Posted by RedZin View Post
That is actually the one thing he is DEFINITELY not doing.

I am not entirely against any of the actual things he's done so far because most of them are either things I would think any president might have chosen to do and/or things that are irrelevant, like the Mexico City Policy reinstatement. That one is a R/D game of ping pong.

If he could ACT more presidential (quit going on about crowds, his campaign, his inaugural, how great he is, harping on stuff like ratings and SNL on Twitter), I could find him tolerable.

I really cannot stand him, so this is saying a lot, btw.
Sounds like you have a perception issue not a Trump looking presidential issue.
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Old 01-24-2017, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
....however, it's early. So...

He's said a few stupid things, but that's to be expected from someone as garrulous as he is.

Moreover, I take no issue with him pulling outta the TPP. Dems should've told Obama to drop it. Hopefully, Trump will find a way to wiggle out of some of these other trade agreements.

His speech to the CEO's was actually a good one...if he means it. Again, this is something that a Democratic president should've said to CEO's years ago. Funny thing is, if Obama or Clinton had sat CEO's down and threatened them this way, Republicans would've had a fit. But right now, they're scared to say anything in the face of Trump's populism.

The other things that Trump has done or said are just grandstanding. Federal employment freeze? Meh...bloviating. Obama did that already. Besides, if you're exempting the Pentagon, it's a waste of time.

That Mexico City abortion thing? Meaningless. Next Dem president will reverse it.

Cutting regulations by 75%? Yeah...OK.

More tax cuts? The Republican cure for cancer and Ebola. Unless he can figure out how to fill that revenue hole (and don't tell me that it'll be filled with all the jobs he'll create...I'm not falling for that one), I'm not paying that any attention. Not worth bothering with.

So overall, I'm giving him a passing grade as I see what the overall tone of his administration will be. And I'll avoid being overly critical until then.

All these stupid controversies about crowd sizes, false media, his son Barron, his tax returns, etc...not worth my time. Folks should just drop it.

What DOES interest me however is this: forget the Democrats! Trump is charting a course that is set to collide big time with the orthodoxy of his party. The TPP pullout hasn't raised much rancor in Republican circles for all to hear, but there's no doubt that certain Repubs are seething.

Of course, I'm getting a good laugh at Republican voters pretending as if they've been against these free trade agreements all along. We all know that it total bullshucks and a complete canard. As this link I'm about to post points out, Republicans have been in the forefront of these agreements right from the beginning...and this most certainly sets up for an interesting showdown between Trump and the corporate Republicans in Congress ....which is almost EVERY Republican in Washington. Love it or hate it, that's the truth.

Anyway, I'm placing my bets with Mr Trump in the battle.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...2e5a8#comments
You miss the 30+ airstrikes over the weekend?
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Old 01-24-2017, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Lovin it so far. I do worry that he will get us involved in a trade war but I trust the guy to not let that happen or change course if it does.
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Old 01-24-2017, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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I like his pick for the SBA, and I don't like TPP or NAFTA quite frankly.

However the obsession over crowd sizes, using 'alternative facts', gagging federal agencies, CIA showboating and complaining against the media certainly show a scary side of him.

I'm disturbed.
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Old 01-24-2017, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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He just signed (yet another) executive order to go forward with the DAPL, in which he holds a financial interest. He's drained the swamp and built a moat full of alligators.
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Old 01-24-2017, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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He just signed (yet another) executive order to go forward with the DAPL,
Wonderful news. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 01-24-2017, 02:51 PM
 
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About as transparent as a lump of coal: Trump admin orders EPA contract freeze and media blackout

And oh, those deone strikes the whiners continually castigated Obama over? They continue!

WHERE's that outrage now? Hiding in that thing on Donny's head?
Yeah..I'm not expecting much transparency.

To boot, I wish that he'd shut up a lot more and act more presidential. He's too garrulous for my taste.
More work, less talking.
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I cannot tell how much of this is grandstanding and how much is serious.

I don't like some of these loony ideas, like reducing regulations so dramatically and pretending there is no such thing as climate change and that LGBT citizens should not be treated equally, but I hope the White House pages return for those issues.

Not holding my breath, because I know there's a larger game going on in the background.

Con Men gotta con.
Yeah...it's gonna be interesting.
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You miss the 30+ airstrikes over the weekend?
No. But Obama ordered those. They were already set in motion.
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Old 01-24-2017, 02:55 PM
 
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President Trump is looking very presidential and he conducts the peoples business. Very transparent unlike the last administration. Signing papers and bringing people into the oval office that have never been there.

Winning the hearts and minds of the people and uniting them isn't easy but he is getting it done as expected. It takes time.
What new people is he bringing in to the Oval Office? Every time I see pictures of him 'signing papers' (which is a small part of what presidents do), the same crowd is there.
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