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Old 01-26-2017, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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Originally Posted by Moth View Post
Good grief, would you liberals get a grip already.

Hillary Clinton voted for a Wall before Trump ever considered office:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006

It's a border. It's our border. We can regulate it as we see fit.
Yes, and the average American taxpayer will be footing the bill for it, to the tune of tens of billions. Not to mention the cost of maintenance and upkeep, the expansion of border patrol, etc. That's "small government neoconservatives" in action alright.

PS-- Who gives an eff what Hillary voted for? To hell with that crow. This isn't a partisan issue; it's a matter of economy.

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Someone who speaks like this is on the defensive, is uninformed and likely part of the problem. Been less than a week and the Trump team is kicking butt.
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Please be specific in how "Trump team is kicking butt." By signing a bunch of papers that didn't actually do anything? By giving rambling interviews lying about easily provable facts? By insulting and horrifying your intelligence agencies? By having your entire senior diplomatic staff resign in unison? By ramping up tensions with the 2nd largest military and economy in the world? By ramping up tensions with nations we share a border with?
Yes, kicking butt how? He's undoubtedly good at stroking his own ego and getting his lemmings to shake in their boots, freaking out over brown people.

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I.do.not.care.who.voted.for.it.

Its a stupid waste of money designed to placate those who refuse to educate themselves on the issue.
Amen.

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That's a nice notion until you realize illegals are getting In-State tuition rates that the "poor downtrodden White folk" cannot get.
Total BS. Prove that this is even a thing.

You are asserting that prospective in-state students are unable to enter state universities because those slots are going to illegal immigrants. Show us.
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Old 01-26-2017, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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The Emperor's New Clothes!

That old book will probably come back on the Best Seller List, along with "1984".
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Old 01-26-2017, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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The world does revolve around him because the US has the biggest influence in any nation... The "He works for us..." line was never true, it was a little line to say to make people feel better... He is not asking anyone for their opinion, he is telling everyone his opinion...
Probably before he is finished, we will no longer have that position in the world.
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Old 01-26-2017, 01:30 PM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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I'm not helping pay for this goddamn wall. I'd sooner stop paying taxes, which coincidentally is exactly how we'll be paying for it.
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Old 01-26-2017, 01:36 PM
 
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I'm not helping pay for this goddamn wall. I'd sooner stop paying taxes, which coincidentally is exactly how we'll be paying for it.
You help pay for it by simply being an American citizen... the only option is to leave to another country... like Canada...
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Old 01-26-2017, 02:13 PM
 
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Total BS. Prove that this is even a thing.

You are asserting that prospective in-state students are unable to enter state universities because those slots are going to illegal immigrants. Show us.

Sure, here is a smattering of proof:

Maryland Policy | uLEADNet.org

Universities change course on qualifications for in-state tuition for undocumented immigrants - Baltimore Sun

There is much, much more. Do a Google.

I am not implying anything. FACT: An illegal can get in state tuition while a citizen from another state, maybe only blocks away-cannot.

That is unfair.

Try reading before you shoot your mouth off.
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Old 01-26-2017, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Placitas, New Mexico
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Building a wall is a great fantasy illusion. Not only will it not decrease illegals from coming over (tunneling under) but its costs are astronomical. Mexico will not pay for it, Mexico will not further cooperate with us in its campaign over illegal drugs, and the building of a wall along the border is nearly impossible to imagine being done as it will have to go through mountains, difficult terrain, pass through Native American lands, private lands, rancher lands, and be built far enough from the river to avoid flooding. An impossible dream which will cost 15 billion dollars and more that the US taxpayer will have to pay for.
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Old 01-26-2017, 02:19 PM
 
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I doubt you were saying that when Hillary voted "Yea."
Keep on doubting, sweetheart. Until you and others realize anti-Trump isn't pro-Hillary or pro-Obama, you'll never learn a thing.
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Old 01-26-2017, 02:21 PM
 
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Building a wall is a great fantasy illusion. Not only will it not decrease illegals from coming over (tunneling under) but its costs are astronomical. Mexico will not pay for it, Mexico will not further cooperate with us in its campaign over illegal drugs, and the building of a wall along the border is nearly impossible to imagine being done as it will have to go through mountains, difficult terrain, pass through Native American lands, private lands, rancher lands, and be built far enough from the river to avoid flooding. An impossible dream which will cost 15 billion dollars and more that the US taxpayer will have to pay for.
Not to mention, illegal immigration from Mexico has been decreasing since 2009.
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Old 01-26-2017, 02:23 PM
 
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https://apnews.com/38a2439bb51a4869b...or-border-wall

"I will build a great wall -- and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me --and I'll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words."
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