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We can't hide behind walls because we are scared of people who look/pray/speak different or because we are afraid they will compete with us for jobs. That's the reality - for better or worse - of the world we live in today.
Isolating ourselves from the world will create a void that will be happily filled by China, Russia, and new organizations like the proposed CANZUK union. Canada doesn't need us, Mexico doesn't need us ... but we sure do need the free movement of goods and people. Would you rather pay $20 for a head of lettuce or $1,000 for an iPhone?
All across the world (except for the US and Western Europe where Russian propaganda has successfully led people to cower in fear of anyone who looks or speaks or prays differently) countries are uniting and forming unions. In Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Bloc we have the Union State/Eurasian Economic Union. In Latin America we have CELAC, UNASUR, ALBA all of which are closely aligned with Russia and China and led avowedly anti-American leaders like Raul Castro and Nicholas Maduro.
We're endangering our national interests because some rubes in Kentucky and Alabama are scared of Muslims and Mexicans and/or were too stupid to learn marketable skills. Donald Trump isn't make us great again, he's taking us backwards towards becoming an irrelevant rump state. An American version of North Korea. But hey, as long as we stick it to the darkies and the Muzzies it's all good right?
USA is not hiding behind walls.
That is propaganda spread by the fear mongering democrat/socialists obama and hillary represented. All opposition is some sort of phobe or sexist or racist who hates people not like them. Thanks obama, the media and dems for dividing the country and creating zombie like followers who are devoid of critical thinking and despise with prejudice anyone not of the same politcal view.
The childlike view of the reality expressed by liberals is stunning. Pelosi placated them by the comforting words, 'we have to pass it to find out what is in it".
Obama took it one step further and comforted liberals with he words, 'isis is the jv team'.
Dems have created an alternate reality and people actiually live there.
So we need to have open boarders, so we don't look scared? Got it.
no, no it is not. But your reply is. It shows your complete inability to rebut an argument.
OP makes a reasonable point, you don't, thus by the laws of the internet and the powers granted to me by my arse, I declare your rebuttal of the OP's posts a failure and you the loser in this discussion, now and until the end of days.
I am not so crazy about the wall idea, either and I am definitely a trump supporter.
I think military should secure the border. Cheaper, more efficient.
Plus, there are more immigrants overstaying their visas than crossing the border illegally, according to something I read.
I think most Americans just want the government to enforce the law. If you have immigration law, then enforce it. It is really a very simple concept.
And would employ more people, which require more equipment, which require housing, food etc.... a nice economic impact. Sorry, I couldn't rep you again.
lovely- as most Americans not really from here- all you have in your favor, is timing- one thing to remember the problem came from the corporations-- not the people - THEY created this mess and bought the politicians- but you will NOT hold them accountable
really do not want to fix the problem-
Why do you think President Trump was voted in. One thing I haven't heard is President Trump uses illegals as employees. Yet, most Hollywood uses them for cheap labor and progressives love them and march with them.
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I am not so crazy about the wall idea, either and I am definitely a trump supporter.
I think military should secure the border. Cheaper, more efficient.
Plus, there are more immigrants overstaying their visas than crossing the border illegally, according to something I read.
I think most Americans just want the government to enforce the law. If you have immigration law, then enforce it. It is really a very simple concept.
I agree! I can hear progressives now, We are turning into Stalin, Hitler, Commies, scared, mean, "We must all sign up as Muslims" military invasion....... not seeing jobs, getting Vets back into civilian life, protected borders just as other countries do.
And would employ more people, which require more equipment, which require housing, food etc.... a nice economic impact. Sorry, I couldn't rep you again.
Thank you. The way I see it, we are already paying our military servicemen and serivewomen. Instead of securing other countries' border, we need to bring at least SOME of them back. Have them securing the border. It is more efficient in my opinion.
Why do you think President Trump was voted in. One thing I haven't heard is President Trump uses illegals as employees. Yet, most Hollywood uses them for cheap labor and progressives love them and march with them.
I agree! I can hear progressives now, We are turning into Stalin, Hitler, Commies, scared, mean, "We must all sign up as Muslims" military invasion....... not seeing jobs, getting Vets back into civilian life, protected borders just as other countries do.
Islam, a voluntary ideology, has a sacred book which is explicitly sexist and homophobic (although not racist at least). It also mentions slavery without unequivocally condemning it (and makes it ok for certain people), has special monetary penalties for no-believers and special punishments for apostates. I suppose that's ok if you are one of those who maintains the that all religions are equivalent (they never could be since they are different ideologies, Buddishm is not Jainism is not Christianly, and different ideologies have different outcomes). I suppose that's ok if you are one of those who think largely impotent Christianity is equivalent to potent Islam in regard to shaping the society they are part of. (Look at human rights and you will find it doesn't fall on a neutrally dispersed basis).
You might think we need more sexist homophobes in this country. Many of us think we already have enough home-grown ones and don't need any more.
I don't buy your lie.
You can find lots of sexist and horrendous text in bibles, you don't even have to try hard.
In fact I am betting there are folk from other religions looking at the bible, and saying "how the F can Christians condemn our religion when theirs is so F'ed up.
Or did you think the western religions were sweet and innocent..
Closing the doors , building walls, starting tariffs wars... yeah that will help export markets...
Trump is a follower of Peter Navarro, Peter is smarter , much smarter than Trump and can convince him of to follow his wacky econ.
Navarro, had some great ideas, a strong book , but the last decade he has flipped and wants to build a massive trade wall, he believes China will eat us WHOLE and is convinced that hiding is the best plan.
I am buying euro denominated investments.
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Sorry, I couldn't rep you again.
