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Old 01-26-2017, 03:37 PM
 
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OR it might be the crybabies that continually whine and refer to open borders in the plural. How the heck are we supposed to know you're only talking about the one border you choose to overlook to access cheap labor at your convenience.

You know what is meant regardless of the plural. So let's not play game here, shall we?


Who's "you"? Most Americans aren't overlooking anything and they aren't accessing cheap, illegal labor either. I suggest you stop stereotyping all Americans and lumping us all together. The majority of us are law abiding and want our immigration laws respected and enforced. That's why Trump got elected.
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Old 01-26-2017, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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We can't hide behind walls because we are scared of people who look/pray/speak different or because we are afraid they will compete with us for jobs.
The US is walling itself off from illegal immigrants, guns, drugs and potentially back-pack nukes.
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Old 01-26-2017, 04:58 PM
 
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We can't hide behind walls because we are scared of people who look/pray/speak different or because we are afraid they will compete with us for jobs. That's the reality - for better or worse - of the world we live in today.

Isolating ourselves from the world will create a void that will be happily filled by China, Russia, and new organizations like the proposed CANZUK union. Canada doesn't need us, Mexico doesn't need us ... but we sure do need the free movement of goods and people. Would you rather pay $20 for a head of lettuce or $1,000 for an iPhone?

All across the world (except for the US and Western Europe where Russian propaganda has successfully led people to cower in fear of anyone who looks or speaks or prays differently) countries are uniting and forming unions.
Democrats, John Lewis, are Russian agents are they not? And WIHS2006 why are you subscribing to Russian propaganda when you denounce it?

Russian state owned news, RT, blasts Trump for the wall. In fact the host of the RT program blasts Republicans claiming they are racists that just want to keep out poor brown people with that wall.



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nXSxrUe3sXs
Thom's Solution For The Trump Wall

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Published on Jan 9, 2017Big Picture Panel: Jason Russell, Washington Examiner & Kate Aronoff, In These Times Magazine. The truth is that we don't need any border wall - whether it's the Great Wall that Trump promised on the campaign trail, or the few miles of barbed wire he's pushing for right now. Border crossings are way down - and a good percentage of undocumented immigrants don’t even come to the US by sneaking over from Mexico - they overstay their visas after flying into big cities like New York and Los Angeles. So - is Trump going to build a wall at Terminal A at JFK Airport? Of course not. All this talk about a wall is just the velvet glove around the iron fist of Republican racism. It’s way to blame poor brown people for a situation that we could easily solve if we started doing what Reagan stopped doing back in the 1980s: prosecute largely wealthy white employers who hire undocumented immigrants.
I've always been against that wall by the way, on purely philosophical grounds of reason of freedom (which in part leads me to be critical of the invisible lines of nation-states). But I voted for Trump.

You Democrats lost because you are elitists that have the character defects of lying cops in New Orleans that snort cocaine, rape women, and then try to frame innocent people for crimes they did not commit. In this case you all want to frame Russia and Putin rather than having the positive character traits of responsibale adults who take responsibility for the ongoing problems in their own country. Instead you all seek to blame Putin and Russia half way across the world.

You all tried to win the US election by framing Russia and Putin. And your own CIA claimed RT news, whoever they Side with in the US on a political issue, that Russia and Putin controls them, tells them what to say. So, it logically follows that Putin and Russia must not only have told you to be against the wall Trump wants to build but that Putin and Russia owns and controls John Lewis and all the Democrats opposing this wall.

Therefore, Democrats must be a direct threat to US democracy as they are Russian agents.



As for unions... Brazil and most Latin American countries have for a while had strong union cultures. I am pro union but unions are local/national and have not evolved to be international like international corporations. Okay, I was taught that by a hardcore liberal professor (I saw him marching on TV against Trump too). For unions to be more effective under globalism they would have to have international membership and collectively bargain for wages internationally rather than parochially.

There are other issues about respect needing to run both ways (meaning not attacking the traditions and Christian religion of native born inhabitants of a country) but you Democrats prove to be to dim in the head to understand any of that.
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:29 PM
 
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We can't hide behind walls because we are scared of people who look/pray/speak different or because we are afraid they will compete with us for jobs. That's the reality - for better or worse - of the world we live in today.

Isolating ourselves from the world will create a void that will be happily filled by China, Russia, and new organizations like the proposed CANZUK union. Canada doesn't need us, Mexico doesn't need us ... but we sure do need the free movement of goods and people. Would you rather pay $20 for a head of lettuce or $1,000 for an iPhone?

All across the world (except for the US and Western Europe where Russian propaganda has successfully led people to cower in fear of anyone who looks or speaks or prays differently) countries are uniting and forming unions. In Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Bloc we have the Union State/Eurasian Economic Union. In Latin America we have CELAC, UNASUR, ALBA all of which are closely aligned with Russia and China and led avowedly anti-American leaders like Raul Castro and Nicholas Maduro.

We're endangering our national interests because some rubes in Kentucky and Alabama are scared of Muslims and Mexicans and/or were too stupid to learn marketable skills. Donald Trump isn't make us great again, he's taking us backwards towards becoming an irrelevant rump state. An American version of North Korea. But hey, as long as we stick it to the darkies and the Muzzies it's all good right?
Puke. Too little thoughtful analysis and too much hyperbole.

File this one under" "not enough thought put into it to warrant the time for a response".

In other words, it's spam.
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:35 PM
 
Location: zooland 1
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Goofballs think we don't need borders

The wall will slow drugs and terrorists..Allow legal aliens the chance for the dream

A country without borders is not a country

I invite any person who is pro open border to personally open their home to them..Care for them..pay their way..Teach them English...provide medical care for them ...Train their charges to take citizenship exams

Please do this before we deport them...This way they can read and sign their deportation documents with ease

Might wake up some people
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Old 01-26-2017, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Vladivostok Russia
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This is an ignorant thread.

So we need to have open boarders, so we don't look scared? Got it.

Yup...... Doesn't surprise me in the least. The OP has claimed in the past to be part-of or linked-to some important part of the inteligencia.
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Old 01-27-2017, 03:22 AM
 
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Your source is wrong. 60% of illegals are border jumpers and only 40% are visa over stayers.
Got a link to those stats? IMO if you build an impenetrable wall you'll just end up with more visa over stays as people come in by plane/ train/ car/ boat or just walk across the border from Canada.bottom line ? this 15 billion dollar wall will have very little impact on Americas illegal immigration problem.
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Old 01-27-2017, 03:36 AM
 
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We can't wall ourselves off from the World.
Yes we can.

But that's not what Trump is doing to start with but liberals can be expected to be blinded by their hate of anything that is not oftheir mindset.
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Old 01-27-2017, 03:56 AM
 
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The US is walling itself off from illegal immigrants, guns, drugs and potentially back-pack nukes.
A wall wouldn't have stopped ANY of the terrorist attacks we've had here. Not one of them. Mexican illegal immigration has been decreasing since 2009, with many people to choosing to go back to Mexico for...work.
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Old 01-27-2017, 03:58 AM
 
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Goofballs think we don't need borders

The wall will slow drugs and terrorists..Allow legal aliens the chance for the dream

A country without borders is not a country

I invite any person who is pro open border to personally open their home to them..Care for them..pay their way..Teach them English...provide medical care for them ...Train their charges to take citizenship exams

Please do this before we deport them...This way they can read and sign their deportation documents with ease

Might wake up some people
:sigh: I don't know anyone who doesn't want borders. But we don't need a wall. Its a waste of money. The proposed wall wouldn't have stopped ONE of the terrorist attacks. NONE. We happily sponsor families through our church. If you know of any other ways to help these people, please let me know.
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