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Old 01-28-2017, 09:17 AM
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Why Iran is in the ban is beyond me. Well, I know, favorite rightie target. But if Trump were to do this right, there would be one major criteria that is missing: sect. Forget countries. Ban Sunnis, you idiot. They are the terrorists. They are ISIS. That means most of the countries that he left off especially Saudi Arabia, home to the worst of them. Maybe the distinction will be picked up in the "extreme vetting". It should be.
Iran is one of the major sponsors of terror in the area and is supporting Assad and its thugs. Learn some more here: Iranian Strategy in Syria | Institute for the Study of War
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Pyongjang
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The Muslim ban needs two things:

1. Extend to more countries
2. Extend well beyond 3 months

I know it will likely be extended beyond 3 months anyways, but this should be stated upfront.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Pyongjang
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Here's an idea, Lets not take in any refugees., from anywhere.
I think we have done enough, we have policed the world since WW2, we send vast amounts of money to dozens of country's, and the useless UN, We out spend all of our allies combined 10 times over on defence so that they can maintain there social welfare utopia's.
As far as I am concerned we have done our fair share, Refugees will just have to go elsewhere, Nobody will take you, oh well not our problem.
No foreigner of any religion has a right to come to the United States. Solve your own problems, fix your own country and or government or go somewhere else, but your not coming here.

Time to turn on the NO VACANCY sign.


RR
Exactly. If the refugees are such good, productive people, then go somewhere else and build a great country. I won't hold my breath waiting for a great Muslim country though lol
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:48 AM
 
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Sometimes you really have question the intelligence of the Trump haters.

Who writes this stuff, and who falls for it?
Indeed.

We won't know about his business interests until he releases his tax returns.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Iran is one of the major sponsors of terror in the area and is supporting Assad and its thugs. Learn some more here: Iranian Strategy in Syria | Institute for the Study of War
Trump is using an axe where he should be using a scalpel. What he is doing is illegal and wrong. He is a dangerous and ignorant dictator who should be stopped before he destroys the country. He's creating jobs alright--for attorneys. Lots of attorneys.

"...Lawyers for the International Refugee Assistance Project and the National Immigration Law Center filed a lawsuit early Saturday in federal court seeking to release Hameed Khalid Darweesh and Haider Sameer Abdulkhaleq Alshawi, who are being held at John F. Kennedy Airport.

...Darweesh, now 53, worked on behalf of the U.S. military in Iraq for a decade as an interpreter and electrical engineer, earning him a so-called “special immigrant visa” that are allotted to Iraqi nationals who aided the U.S. government during the Iraq War and now face threats staying there. Darweesh applied for the visa in Oct. 1, 2014, which was issued on Jan. 20, the same day Trump was inaugurated.

And Alshawi, 33, was granted a visa Jan. 11 to join his wife and son, who have already been resettled as refugees in Houston..."

Trump sued after Iraqis detained at airport - POLITICO

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-shame-...an-fear-549492
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Prescott Arizona
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It's not a Muslim ban/thread
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:59 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Consider that Egypt, Saudia Arabia, UAE, Quatar, Jordan are all very well off and are not taking refugees. Even Iran, Iraq doesn't want them. Why should Europe and US take in refugees.
The refugee situation aside, WHY should the US base any decision it makes on the actions of some country like Saudi Arabia that has a history of financing radical Islamic schools teaching hatred of the west, practices one of the most radical forms of Islam, and has a horrible human rights record?
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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It is not about Trump's bottom line. It is about the fact that Saudi Arabia has been a US ally since the end of WWII and always served US interest. So whatever sh#t the Saudi kings did, the US tolerates it (unlike to Iraq or Syria).

Do you honestly think Trump got elected to improve his "bottom line“? I know many love to think the worst of him, but this theory is childish.
Yet none of the countries banned have committed any terror acts since we have been tracking and Saudis (and Egyptians)have.

Trump's Immigration Freeze Omits Those Linked To Deadly Attacks In U.S. : Parallels : NPR

I mean if we are going to bother calling it terrorism related let's picknthe right countries.
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:01 AM
 
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It is just as important to talk about the countries the Muslim ban doesn't apply to. Conveniently the ones he has businesss ties in - Egypt, Saudi, UAE ....

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2...t-of-interest/

So much for consistency.
Exactly. Between media hype, Kool aid drinkers for Trump and all of various knee jerks spouting off there's a lot flying under the radar.

Saudi Arabia is one of the biggest supporters of terrorism in the world. Trump has hotels there though and the Saudi Riyal Family owns politicians all over the Western world.

Drain the swamp? LMAO!!!!!!
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Wasn't it just recently that you people were trying to accuse Trump of wanting to ban all Muslims from the USA?
Who is you people?
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