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Building a wall is like expecting a deadbolt you purchase at lowes to keep a criminal out of your home.. it will deter some, but determined ones that want to get in surely will.. they will just fine the weakness in the defense, word of mouth will spread, and they will get in.
If they wanted to really deter illegal aliens, they should just go an execute on the spot anyone found smuggling drugs into the county, no trial, no jury.. you have pounds of cocaine or heroin on you and you are found, bam you're dead.
We aren't really willing to do what would really be effective because it would be seen as "cruel"
If I thought the wall would work, I would support it. I would also support simply invading and annexing Mexico and making it part of the US. We probably don't have the manpower to do that though while getting rid of the corruption they have down there. In order for the wall to work you need it to be very tall, with barb wire on top, resistant to the barb wire being cut by wire cutters or the wall being scaled with a rope or ladder, you need in depth searches of all trucks at all entry points to check for people and drugs hiding in vehicles.. with a border that size it seems somewhat impractical. Then you have to assume all the states will play along, and there's a good chance CA won't.. they've proven they'll be a sanctuary state for these people in the past...
It seems like a great idea, but will it keep people out? It's only our culture that keeps people from breaking into our houses.. if anybody wanted to they could get into any home.. cut through the paper thin garage doors, break a window, drill the cheap deadbolts we use... I think I know how to scale most fences.. barbed wire as a deterrent? Give me a break. Pretty sure I can scale any fence with the proper tools and a few hours of time.
Getting tired of the lies and excuses for not building the 700 mile long wall on the most porous areas of our southern border already approved by congress but then liberals and ethnocentrics never did let facts get in the way of their agendas.
It costs more to not have a wall, than to have one.
The wall will keep out illegals, criminals, guns, drugs, and back-pack nukes just to name a few things.
Exactly. Why aren't liberals crying and screaming about the tens of billions spent every year by taxpayers to feed, house, educate, incarcerate, and provide medical care for illegals?
Yes, I'd pay for the wall in a second but I already am as described above.
I don't know where you are getting your figures but I'll roll with it. Let's make a deal! Those who don't want the wall will have to cover the share of the $113 billion a year that illegals cost us for those of us who do want the wall. The wall is a one time expense plus maintenance. The $113 billion is the cost for each and every year that illegals incur on the taxpayer and will only rise unless we do something to deter them. I'll gladly pick up the tab for someone who don't want the wall. Now who's on the losing end of this deal? Sounds like a plan to me!
That number was cooked up by an anti-immigration group, and had been ruled FALSE. Its fake news. Also, unlike Trump, the illegals actually pay taxes.
I'm fine with a wall, but I am not asking for one, and therefore don't want to pay for it.
If you think your taxes will be reduced when the wall is built, I have just one thing to say: LOL
That number was cooked up by an anti-immigration group, and had been ruled FALSE. Its fake news. Also, unlike Trump, the illegals actually pay taxes.
I'm fine with a wall, but I am not asking for one, and therefore don't want to pay for it.
Really? Maybe when they go to the store they pay some sales taxes. Otherwise, half of the illegals get payed working under the table or work for themselves, avoiding other taxes.
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OP, it is part of security. Yes, I will pay towards it if I have to. But first the sanctuary states need to be defunded and the fed $ held back needs to be used for the wall.
I do find it hilarious that Trump might increase illegal immigration by making Mexico worse.
The liberal nonsense line is that we should not enforce our immigration laws, because not letting people come into the US illegally, will just cause more people to come in illegally.
That is what you are arguing here.
Simply put, your complaint is that any action taken by the US which prevents people from illegally entering the US, we will make Mexico worse, and increase illegal immigration.
It would not matter if we prevented illegal immigration with a fence, or more border agents, or E-verify, or visa enforcement, or better screening at the border, or anything else we do. To you it's all stupid, and we should not bother doing any of it because it will... "increase illegal immigration by making Mexico worse"
Yep I understand why you would think it unfair. Life is not always fair.
Unfortunately, the US govt did not enforce our borders and immigration policy.
As a country, we are somewhat complicit in the condition that illegal immigrants who are not criminal, but are simply trying to improve their lives find themselves.
Given than, a compromise is reasonable in my opinion. You are free to disagree.
As an American and as a rational person, I don't see the benefit of penalizing millions of people who are peacefully abiding amongst us. Sure, we could deport them, but why? They are doing jobs that we need and want done.
Cut the flow of illegals off and then deal with the ones we have allowed to stay here for years.
Additionally, it would be a brilliant move on the part of Republicans imo to grant these people a path to citizenship and potentially obtain their vote in the future.
Most Mexican illegals that I know are far more conservative than liberal.
Since our government didn't enforce our immigration laws as they should have we law abiding Americans aren't going to pay for their negligence by accepting or advocating for another amnesty or compromising. Fool me once.... No one has the right to improve their lives by breaking laws and taking from others what doesn't belong to them. What part of that don't you get? By improving their lives they have made the lives of regular Americans more difficult. Your compassion is so misplaced.
Peaceful or not they have taken jobs from Americans and Americans need those jobs back! Do you also think that we shouldn't penalize American law breakers? Why have any laws then? Deport them, why? Because they violated our laws and have taken jobs, resources and taxes from Americans, that's why! They are a burden to our society not a benefit. They also send billions out of our country not spent in our country and would continue to do so with or without an amnesty. I suggest you start putting Americans first and start respecting the rule of law.
I don't know what issues you think illegal Mexicans are more conservative about but it's irrelevant. Most American citizens of Mexican descent vote Democrat not Republican.
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