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Old 03-21-2018, 12:32 PM
 
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There is an arrogance and hypocrisy that it is a non-issue when Obama does it, but a threat to democracy when Trump does it.
Witness the hysteria over Trump calling Putin after winning his election. Propaganda media presstitutes have short memories. Actually, I'd go so far as to say most of them are brain dead!
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Old 03-21-2018, 12:33 PM
 
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I’m asking a specific user
Got it.

Look, it's clear to me that there were a lot of dirty tricks played on both sides of the equation in the election. A lot of people sensed that and knew that before the election. That is why so many of us felt that it was a case of choosing between the lesser of two evils.

But, as far as we know, Clinton didn't sell her soul to the Mercers and Bannon to get elected or work with Cambridge Analytica and the SGL Group which, no matter how you look at it, went beyond just database marketing. (No doubt Clinton sold her soul elsewhere; I'm sure you can start a different thread on that so we can stay on topic here)
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Old 03-21-2018, 12:34 PM
 
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Witness the hysteria over Trump calling Putin after winning his election. Propaganda media presstitutes have short memories. Actually, I'd go so far as to say most of them are brain dead!
His own aides told him not to call. How idiotic. But of course, he is Putin's puppet and owes him everything, so guess he had no choice.
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Old 03-21-2018, 12:35 PM
 
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You mean "techniques" like advertising?
Advertising? You mean where Nix was we caught on tape saying that Cambridge helped Trump with the election? That advertising?
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Old 03-21-2018, 12:36 PM
 
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So are you saying that this was a hacked election? That it was an illegitimate election?
Yes.
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Old 03-21-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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Yep. Partisan politics at play here. The fact is the way the data was mined. Obama was mined through legit means. Cambridge Analytica Trojan Horsed users (not in a tech sense) and took their data and friends while Facebook didn't even know it was happening and Facebook more so was lied to by Cambridge Analytica and when Facebook realized they got had around 2017, Cambridge Analytica lied again when they said they deleted the data. They didn't.
Stop spreading fake news. That’s the job of the right.

Facebook handed that information to anyone who wanted to request it. All they had to do is click on a checkbox labeled “friends” to get that info. I posted a video which showed how the FB application Graghic API for developers worked back then. It was information you could get through legit means. . FB knew what was happening because 50 million profiles is way too much data. It even shut down the application and CA called someone on FB who help them with the large data transfer. In 2015 FB changed the application and the information you could get from the users friends was more limited.

My previous post #658 even shows up that you could get the user’s friends pictures.
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Old 03-21-2018, 12:44 PM
 
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So are you saying that this was a hacked election? That it was an illegitimate election?
Those and other voting machines just as easy to interfere with were in use

Possibility certainly existed
Attempts by Russians to infiltrate our systems certainly occurred
We were told the didnt succeed
Why would the fiction they failed be more pallitable than the truth they did??
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Old 03-21-2018, 12:44 PM
 
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Those and other voting machines just as easy to interfere with were in use

Possibility certainly existed
Attempts by Russians to infiltrate our systems certainly occurred
We were told the didnt succeed
Why would the fiction they failed be more pallitable than the truth they did??



So do you feel this was an illegitimate election?
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Old 03-21-2018, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Stop spreading fake news. That’s the job of the right.

Facebook handed that information to anyone who wanted to request it. All they had to do is click on a checkbox labeled “friends” to get that info. I posted a video which showed how the FB application Graghic API for developers worked back then. It was information you could get through legit means. . FB knew what was happening because 50 million profiles is way too much data. It even shut down the application and CA called someone on FB who help them with the large data transfer. In 2015 FB changed the application and the information you could get from the users friends was more limited.

My previous post #658 even shows up that you could get the user’s friends pictures.
Not exactly, Kogan the one who created the app was told that incidental information gathered through the personality test was to be used for research only, he subsequently passed it on to Cambridge Analytica (Kogan worked for GSR the parent company of CA). Facebook is complicit in that they did little if anything to enforce their own rules.
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Old 03-21-2018, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Wonder if Zuck is secretly a Trump supporter but can’t admit it in liberal Silicon Valley .
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