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View Poll Results: Your position on Trump's travel ban:
I support the travel ban. 229 55.99%
I am against the travel ban. 110 26.89%
I support making modifications to the travel ban. 70 17.11%
Voters: 409. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-29-2017, 06:55 PM
 
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It's a temporary ban until better vetting methods are put into place.

I would like to see Saudi Arabia and Pakistan included in the ban as well, but the political and economic reality is that the US will need Pakistan's help when it effects regime change in Iran and the Central Asia States, and the US needs Saudi Arabia to sell its oil in US Dollars on the global market to keep your economy intact.
LOL I know. but hey anything for liberals to get their panties all bunched up and screaming like wet cats.
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Old 01-29-2017, 07:03 PM
 
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Look at the Tsarnaevs for example; they came here on a tourist visa, then applied for assylum with some BS excuse they feared being persecuted for being Chechens in Dagestan.

So they purposely moved from Kyrgyzstan, a safe and stable country, to Russian Dagestan, then turn around and claim they are going to be persecuted, and the US grants them refugee status? Why not tell them to go back to Kyrgyzstan?

It is this rather laxed criteria that I do not like.
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Old 01-30-2017, 04:25 AM
 
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Until anyone can show me how the current immigration and foreign travel policies of our country failed, I don't support modifications nor a ban on travel.
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Old 01-30-2017, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I also support a George Soros ban. He (and his Open Society) interferes in our government more than China and Russia combined.
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Old 01-30-2017, 06:24 AM
 
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This is not "restrictions on travel". It is a bar on ALL CITIZENS from the effected countries, even if they're LPR's and dual passport holders. If you hold an AMERICAN passport and are a dual citizen with one of these countries, you are also barred.
If you hold a US Passport - you don't NEED a Visa.
More Hysterical Meltdown & FAKE NEWS
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Old 01-30-2017, 06:35 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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Do we know the criteria by which 7 countries were selected?

There are some countries that seem to be left off.... ISIS/L claimed territory and other hot beds for activity. Why Iran? Not Saudi-Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypt, Qatar, etc. We have a terrorist acts actually carried out by nationals not on the list. Wasn't 9/11 hijackers from Saudi-Arabia, Lebanon, and UEA? None of which are on the list.

Does the exec order state what will happen if the resulting proposed policies do not meet Trump's idea of "extreme vetting" at the end of the temporary ban? Does the temporary ban go indefinitely until so? Whether or not you agree or not, it is important to know the criteria by which such actions are lifted.

That's actually more of a concern of mine than the actual ban. Historically, unilateral actions (martial law in extreme cases) without any reasonable "end" is used to expand power indefinitely and political leverage. Ferdinand Marcos (of Philippines) declared martial law for almost 10 years to rule unchecked.

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Old 01-30-2017, 06:47 AM
 
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It is reasonable and prudent. The US didn't welcome Japanese or German immigrants during WWII and we should not welcome immigrants from countries that harbor terrorists during the War on Terror. That is the commonest sense of all common sense.

The Democrats are whipping up their followers to a crescendo so they will already be at full throat when President Trump announces his Supreme Court nominee. That's the reason for the current frenzy.
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Old 01-30-2017, 06:53 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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These people seem to forget that Clinton and Obama said the same things as Trump is saying and DOING. As it turns out these same exact policies and words were said "way back" when Vietnamese refugees were being brought into the country.
But that was okay as a LIBERAL was in charge...
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Old 01-30-2017, 06:56 AM
 
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I wonder where the protests and outrage was when Obama was killing civilians with his drone strikes in Syria and Afghanistan?
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Old 01-30-2017, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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If Canada keeps taking in all of those refugees we may need to worry more about our northern border than the southern one.
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