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Old 01-29-2017, 06:07 PM
 
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Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act Frequently Asked Questions
https://www.cbp.gov/travel/internati...ention-act-faq

Under the Act, travelers in the following categories are no longer eligible to travel or be admitted to the United States under the VWP:

Nationals of VWP countries who have been present in Iraq, Syria, or countries listed under specified designation lists (currently including Iran and Sudan) at any time on or after March 1, 2011 (with limited government/military exceptions).

Nationals of VWP countries who have been present in Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, at any time on or after March 1, 2011 (with limited government/military exceptions).

These restrictions do not apply to VWP travelers whose presence in Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia, or Yemen was to perform military service in the armed forces of a program country, or in order to carry out official duties as a full-time employee of the government of a program country. We recommend those who have traveled to the seven countries listed above for military/official purposes bring with them appropriate documentation when traveling through a U.S. port of entry.

The vast majority of VWP-eligible travelers will not be affected by the new Act. New countries may be added to this list at the discretion of the Secretary of Homeland Security.
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Old 01-29-2017, 06:08 PM
 
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Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 two years before Trump? There was a kind of “Muslim ban” before the Muslim ban? But almost no one critiqued it in 2015 because it was Obama’s administration overseeing it.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-...-bill/158/text

Because mainstream media has been purposely lying, either due to ignorance or because of unwillingness to read the document and ask questions and because they are too ready to accept “facts” without investigating. They want to blame Trump for a “Muslim ban” because they were ready with that script since last year.

And indeed Trump has enacted a harsh executive order cracking down on visitors from these countries (particularly Syrians), but his crackdown only includes those seven countries because of Obama’s policy. Trump’s decision to go beyond the policy and increase the Obama policy harms refugees, but it only increases an existing discriminatory policy, it doesn’t invent it.
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Old 01-29-2017, 06:14 PM
 
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Watch it. You will be called a racist.
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Old 01-29-2017, 06:15 PM
 
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Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 two years before Trump? There was a kind of “Muslim ban” before the Muslim ban? But almost no one critiqued it in 2015 because it was Obama’s administration overseeing it.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-...-bill/158/text

Because mainstream media has been purposely lying, either due to ignorance or because of unwillingness to read the document and ask questions and because they are too ready to accept “facts” without investigating. They want to blame Trump for a “Muslim ban” because they were ready with that script since last year.

And indeed Trump has enacted a harsh executive order cracking down on visitors from these countries (particularly Syrians), but his crackdown only includes those seven countries because of Obama’s policy. Trump’s decision to go beyond the policy and increase the Obama policy harms refugees, but it only increases an existing discriminatory policy, it doesn’t invent it.
Oh for gawd's sake.

What Trump's doing has nothing whatsoever to do with any security measures Obama put in place while he was President, as all Presidents do.

Trump stands on his own here.



And at least post this in one of the 500 other threads so we can keep track of all the crap in one place.
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Old 01-29-2017, 06:24 PM
 
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Oh for gawd's sake.

What Trump's doing has nothing whatsoever to do with any security measures Obama put in place while he was President, as all Presidents do.

Trump stands on his own here.



And at least post this in one of the 500 other threads so we can keep track of all the crap in one place.
Yes it does.
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Old 01-29-2017, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 two years before Trump? There was a kind of “Muslim ban” before the Muslim ban? But almost no one critiqued it in 2015 because it was Obama’s administration overseeing it..
You need to learn what a visa waiver is before making these kinds of comments. Requiring a visa to enter a US is not a ban in any way shape or form.

However, Trumps EO is a muslim ban.
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Old 01-29-2017, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Yes it does.
This is different of course, if not then are people being detained from Syria, Iraq and Iran under current law, do you understand the difference. This was also an expansion to refugees
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