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Old 02-01-2017, 10:36 AM
 
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From the lips of Trump, so it must be so ! Funny that all the statistics in the world refute all the words you typed. We have one of the toughest vetting processes in the world, and people do not just sneak under the door to get in here and create mayhem. But Trump said those words, and you sucked them up like a sponge.
once again someone making the assumption that i mimic trump on immigration. if anything he mimics ME, since i have had that stance since the early 80s. as for our vetting process, it perhaps USED to be the toughest, but for quite sometime now it has gone downhill. and yes people do sneak in to this country to cause mayhem, ever hear of the gang MS13? every person that crosses out borders without going through the legal process is in fact a criminal, since they are breaking our laws.

but apparently you, like many others, dont care about our laws, especially immigration laws. it seems you think that other counties can have tough immigration laws, and enforce those laws, but the US should have wide open borders and no immigration laws. why is that? are you also one fo those people that think we should not be the worlds policeman?

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Temporary ban but the Syrian refugees are in definite, now what do you suppose the immediate threat was to take this drastic action. It couldn't have had anything to do with his comments on banning Muslims, this is for our security of course.
do you think that perhaps the reason for the indefinite suspension of syrian refugess is because there is a WAS going on there, and that it would be very difficult to set up a proper vetting process there?
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Old 02-01-2017, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Tom Ridge, come on.


Here is the 20 step vetting process for refugees, Syrian's undergo additional checks. Besides the fact that at they don't even know what country they will end up in until the very end of the process which takes around 2 years. So what do you think Trump is going to do, add on steps 21-30 and what will they look like, what will be different.


Add in the point that not one refugee has been responsible for an attack and we have a few million refugees in this country.




https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...g-process.html
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Old 02-01-2017, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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do you think that perhaps the reason for the indefinite suspension of syrian refugess is because there is a WAS going on there, and that it would be very difficult to set up a proper vetting process there?

The state department didn't indicate there was suddenly a specific problem and they have indicated that this alienates our allies. If someone could point to one thing would make a difference in the current vetting process then I would love to hear it but just a ban at this time doesn't make any sense lacking any particular threat.
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:04 AM
 
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EVEN after Budweiser was bought out by a European company, it has always been thought of as 'America's' beer.

I have one dear friend who loves her Bud....boy she won't like this at all. LOL
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:43 AM
 
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we have no problem with LEGAL immigrants who come here and want to assimilate into american culture. the problem is the criminal element that thumbs their noses at our laws to come here ILLEGALLY and commit crimes like drug running, rape, murder, etc. why is it that other countries can have immigration laws that need to be followed, but somehow the US cant?
don't be a baby little lug nut.



The USA has plenty of barriers, you have just never once , not for a second taken the time to learn what they are or how they work.
Had you invested just an hour of you life you would by now fully understand the lie you are being sold .



But you have not. You have not bothered to learn anything, instead you are simply regurgitating the propaganda that was designed to inflame opinion and motivate you to ignore your needs and instead vote based on fear and jingoism.



The USA has advanced, complex , deep barriers to entry. We have accords, agreements, deals, with many nations that both increase barriers in both or just one direction and also lower barriers for some countries too.

Over staying visas is still the primary method of getting into the USA. The reason it is hard to stop is that tourism makes a pile of cash and 3rd level ed is a massive revenue generator for universities across the USA.

But all the right talks about is refugees and the Mexican border....

IF a terrorist wanted in to the USA they would simply fly to FL on vacation. Or did you think they would not think of that.
If a terrorist wanted in to the USA they would simply buy a seat in one of hundreds of schools... Or did you really think they would be trying to pass as a refugee?

If a terrorist wanted in they would simply open a US business and travel here on business.


And yet still we have these dumb know nothing Rightwinger believing in Trump's "extreme vetting" bullshat.


You want tighter borders?

Raise the pay rates, improve the training and increasing staffing in our embassies . There is your wall.


Frankly Trump and President Bannon played you guys like fiddles.
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Interesting timing for them to roll this one out:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtBZvl7dIu4
It's a cute ad and has a happy ending. Obviously, it's about legal immigration.

BTW, I've never met anyone who doesn't support legal immigration. Why would anyone be offended by this ad?
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Old 02-01-2017, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Frankly Trump and President Bannon played you guys like fiddles.
Sounds like they played you like a high strung fiddle.
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Old 02-01-2017, 12:06 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Tom Ridge, come on.
And Obama's Administration.

Can you explain how the ISIS forged passports are caught during vetting?

ISIS Has Whole Fake Passport 'Industry,' Official Says - ABC News

ISIS terrorists enter UK on fake passports
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Old 02-01-2017, 12:14 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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St. Louis looked so welcoming and tolerant of diversity back then. What happened?
That was what I got from the commercial. How St. Louis has really changed? AB was slamming St. Louis?


Having spent from early 2010 through the fall of 2015 in St Louis, every week M-F, I found St Louis to be relatively diverse and quite welcoming.


How much time have you spent there?
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Old 02-01-2017, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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And Obama's Administration.

Can you explain how the ISIS forged passports are caught during vetting?

ISIS Has Whole Fake Passport 'Industry,' Official Says - ABC News

ISIS terrorists enter UK on fake passports
Trump is going to eliminate fake pass ports?
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