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Old 02-02-2017, 06:45 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Why should he? Bush nor Obama sent theirs.
The Trumpies told us Trump was different!

I guess not so much, eh?
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Old 02-02-2017, 06:46 AM
 
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China's Iran oil imports to hit record on new production: sources | Reuters

They most certainly do. It's why sanctions never did actually work.
On this, China has a closer relationship with Iran rather than Turkey. First and foremost, Turkey is aligned (for the most part) with the U.S. and the West, Iran on the other hand isn't. Turkey doesn't have oil to offer therefore China doesn't have much interest there (not saying they have no interest in Turkey), Iran on the other hand... You get the gist.

But fighting America for Iran? Probably not.
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Old 02-02-2017, 06:46 AM
 
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We'll arrange for them to get their oil from Saudi Arabia, which hates Iran.

See?

That was easy.
China is not about to allow us to dictate to them what they will do. As I said, fantasies.

Saudi Arabia is as bad if not worse than Iran at that.
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Old 02-02-2017, 06:47 AM
 
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Despite the top down theocracy Iran is one of the most secular Muslim countries. High rates of college education and only 2% attend mosque. Would be a great idea to invade and suddenly radicalize 60 million people who haven't committed a terrorist act against the West in decades.
No need to invade.

Just destroy their infrastructure and assassinate their leaders.

Iranians would probably thank us.
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Old 02-02-2017, 06:47 AM
 
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Are you saying we can't "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran"?

Yes, we can.

And we can keep doing it for as long as we want.
You can also keep poking yourself in the eye with a sharp stick as long as you want.

The question in both cases is WHY?
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Old 02-02-2017, 06:47 AM
 
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So, the missile test was a display of respect for Trump?

No, it was Iran giving him the finger.
The launched at least 5 missiles since the nuke deal under Obama and there was little said or done about it. What could Obama do, making a big deal about it would be admitting the nuke deal was a mistake.

Iran conducts 4th missile test since signing nuke deal | The Times of Israel

Missile Test Fired: Latest News, Photos, Videos on Missile Test Fired - NDTV.COM

I think this was a trial balloon to see what Trump would say. They got their answer.

What is interesting is how all of this does not fit into the narrative of the left of Trump being doing everything he can for Russia since they have had very close ties to Iran the last few years.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...ance-with-iran

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Old 02-02-2017, 06:47 AM
 
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Despite the top down theocracy Iran is one of the most secular Muslim countries. High rates of college education and only 2% attend mosque. Would be a great idea to invade and suddenly radicalize 60 million people who haven't committed a terrorist act against the West in decades.
Exactly!

BEfore invading Iraq, many Middle Eastern experts spoke of just this. They all agreed that Hussein -- while deplorable was the enemy you know. If the USA went in with a heavy hand, it would create another generation of angry men. And that's what happened.
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Old 02-02-2017, 06:48 AM
 
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The Trumpies told us Trump was different!

I guess not so much, eh?
I can't speak for them. We were told Obama would be *change* also.
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Old 02-02-2017, 06:48 AM
 
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China is not about to allow us to dictate to them what they will do. As I said, fantasies.
China will take dictation from us or lose their economy.

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Saudi Arabia is as bad if not worse than Iran at that.
China can buy their oil from Saudi Arabia. It makes no difference to them, as long as they get the oil.
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Old 02-02-2017, 06:49 AM
 
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China is not about to allow us to dictate to them what they will do. As I said, fantasies.

Saudi Arabia is as bad if not worse than Iran at that.
Yet they don't make 'the list', guess it's nice to have low friends in high places.
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