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But would you be a Doctor for $100K to $150K? We've had people complaining about fast food workers wanting 15 bucks an hour, but then never complain about Doctors who make millions. How about letting nurses and physician assistants write prescriptions? That'll eliminate a lot of doctor visits!
Because we want people who are qualified in medicine. It is a tricky area, but then again, a fast food worker doesn't have someone's life or health in their hands so you can't compare the two
Medicare for all would require increasing the HI payroll tax from 1.45% for employer and employee to 12+% for employer and employee.
I thought Liberals were opposed to regressive taxes like payroll taxes?
The average cost for family health insurance in the US is over $18,000 per year. source. That's before paying any copays, deductibles, etc. if Medicare tax were 12%, a family would have to make over $150,000 to pay more. For an average family bringing in around $56,000 per year, a 12% tax would equal $6,720, or about $560 a month. This is far less than most people pay. But, they would have no other healthcare costs, and wouldn't have to worry about bankruptcy over a simple procedure. And the burden would be removed from employers, who would certainly increase wages after such a cost savings (Hahahah).
You mention the word "tax" and some people can no longer comprehend anything else.
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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The average cost for family health insurance in the US is over $18,000 per year. source. That's before paying any copays, deductibles, etc. if Medicare tax were 12%, a family would have to make over $150,000 to pay more. For an average family bringing in around $56,000 per year, a 12% tax would equal $6,720, or about $560 a month. This is far less than most people pay. But, they would have no other healthcare costs, and wouldn't have to worry about bankruptcy over a simple procedure. And the burden would be removed from employers, who would certainly increase wages after such a cost savings (Hahahah).
You mention the word "tax" and some people can no longer comprehend anything else.
We're going to end up with government healthcare one day. Republicans are delusional if they think it won't happen.
We should have had it 8 years ago, but Republicans threw a fit. Democrats did their naive best to work out a compromise, for all the good that did.
People forget the situation 8 years ago. Insurance costs were spiraling out of sight. Small companies were dropping their health care benefits. Medical bills were turning in bankruptcies. Insurance companies were refusing to insure anyone with a pre-existing condition, dropping policies over claims. It was a mess with no end in sight and no evidence that dropping ACA will change the trajectory.
We end up paying for people's health care one way or the other.
ACA helped entrepreneurs start businesses, always a plus when for a growing economy.
I was ahead of the curve on this. The GOP after all the talk of repeal, repeal, are softening up and realizing what a monstrosity and disaster it would be to remove all of Obamacare altogether.
Three months ago, I said this here... which agreed with Obama's call to fix Obamacare.
Lawmakers have already started to face crowds of constituents concerned about what repeal might do to their own healthcare. Twenty million people gained health coverage under ObamaCare, and Republicans have promised that people will not lose their insurance because of repeal.
There is a split within Republicans over what to do about ObamaCare’s Medicaid expansion, which provided coverage to about 11 million new low-income people. Lawmakers from the 31 states that accepted the expansion are more likely to want to protect the expansion and the federal money for their states that came with it.
The Congressmen need to forget the politics and make something work for people and the country for a change. Maybe they can work with the states to slowly shift the burden away from the feds.
Republican party vowed to repeal Social Security after it was created, and you can see where that has gone......
Health insurance without "healthy people" paying in isn't viable.
Which is why sooner or later a single payer healthcare scheme is coming to the USA funded by direct payroll and or other taxes; no opting out.
It may not happen in two, five or six years, but make no mistake that is where ACA will have to go; and this is something many on the on left and right agree upon. The former are thrilled while the latter are horrified, but never the less that train is approaching the station.
As long as they remove the requirements and penalties and let it dry out on it's own. AETNA is getting ready to pull out of offering to all public markets is a clue.
Few insurers will stick around once the requirements gone let it bleed to death.
Switch the folks that couldn't pay back on to medicaid. Enjoy the long wait time.
Republicans have had years to come up with a fix for ACA or a replacement they have never had anything and they still do not so they will kill ACA and go back to the old way. Republicans plan is die faster
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