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Old 02-01-2017, 01:28 PM
 
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The reason for the question is as follows:
  • Two GOP Senators will vote against Betsy Devos as Education Secretary.
  • Assuming no other defections from either side, this means 50-50 tie.
  • Mike Pence will have to vote, as President of Senate to break tie.
But......
  • If Jeff Sessions is confirmed as Defense Secretary
  • Is He still a US Senator who can vote?
  • If not, then Betsy Devos will not be confirmed because it will be 49-50.
  • Pence can only vote if there is a tie.
Maybe Democrats wish they had already confirmed Sessions.

What do you think?
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Old 02-01-2017, 01:34 PM
 
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Good question. I really hope Devos is not confirmed. After listening to her for about ten minutes I cannot stand behind her. Trump was wrong in picking her.
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Old 02-01-2017, 01:38 PM
 
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once sessions is confirmed as AG, he automatically resigns as a senator, and thus can no longer vote on anything in front of the senate. if the governor of his state is on the ball, they already have a replacement waiting in the wings so that if sessions is confirmed, his replacement can be in washington and on the job in a couple of days.
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Old 02-01-2017, 01:41 PM
 
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once sessions is confirmed as AG, he automatically resigns as a senator, and thus can no longer vote on anything in front of the senate. if the governor of his state is on the ball, they already have a replacement waiting in the wings so that if sessions is confirmed, his replacement can be in washington and on the job in a couple of days.
At the moment, Devos comes up before Sessions, so he would still be eligible to vote.

But I can see how that might change.
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Old 02-01-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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once sessions is confirmed as AG, he automatically resigns as a senator, and thus can no longer vote on anything in front of the senate. if the governor of his state is on the ball, they already have a replacement waiting in the wings so that if sessions is confirmed, his replacement can be in washington and on the job in a couple of days.
Maybe, but I doubt a resignation is automatic. I suspect he will resign right before he takes the oath of office as the US Attorney General. If necessary to get a confirmation on another nominee - he might be able to delay his Oath of Office and assumption of his new job. They will have to make sure (by salary adjustment if necessary) that the US AG does not have a higher salary than what Session made as a Senator.
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Old 02-01-2017, 02:03 PM
 
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The reason for the question is as follows:
  • Two GOP Senators will vote against Betsy Devos as Education Secretary.
  • Assuming no other defections from either side, this means 50-50 tie.
  • Mike Pence will have to vote, as President of Senate to break tie.
But......
  • If Jeff Sessions is confirmed as Defense Secretary
  • Is He still a US Senator who can vote?
  • If not, then Betsy Devos will not be confirmed because it will be 49-50.
  • Pence can only vote if there is a tie.
Maybe Democrats wish they had already confirmed Sessions.

What do you think?
Not sure, but I believe a vote before such a change is still honored.
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Old 02-01-2017, 06:28 PM
 
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If nothing else, they reason they can inflict some political pain on Trump and the Republicans while showing the Democratic base that they won’t “be rolled over” by the new president, Manley said. Yet the likelihood is that before spring arrives, Trump will have most if not all of his Cabinet nominees in place. Confirmation delayed, after all, is not the same as confirmation denied.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...senate/513782/

Written 12 days ago, and is happening exactly as spelled out in the article.

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Not sure, but I believe a vote before such a change is still honored.
There has to be some type of clause which would allow Sessions to vote, or they could delay the swearing in. I can't find anything for this particular situation, so it must be a rare thing indeed.
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Old 02-01-2017, 06:36 PM
 
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I said it back then that Democrats will dread what comes after invoking the nuclear option... hubris...
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Old 02-02-2017, 08:54 AM
 
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The reason for the question is as follows:
  • Two GOP Senators will vote against Betsy Devos as Education Secretary.
  • Assuming no other defections from either side, this means 50-50 tie.
  • Mike Pence will have to vote, as President of Senate to break tie.
But......
  • If Jeff Sessions is confirmed as Defense Secretary
  • Is He still a US Senator who can vote?
  • If not, then Betsy Devos will not be confirmed because it will be 49-50.
  • Pence can only vote if there is a tie.
Maybe Democrats wish they had already confirmed Sessions.

What do you think?
It usually takes a couple months for the senate to finally vote on a SCOTUS nominee, by that time a new republican senator will be selected to replace Sessions.
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Old 02-02-2017, 09:16 AM
 
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It usually takes a couple months for the senate to finally vote on a SCOTUS nominee, by that time a new republican senator will be selected to replace Sessions.
This isn't about the SCOTUS. It's about Betsy Devos.
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