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Not "The Left", rather some elements of the left. Generalising the entire left movement - which equates roughly to almost an half of the adult American population - to a bunch of violent brutes is not only dangerous, but it completely shuts down any sort of conversation or harmony in a healthy democracy.
You said that you don't like the fact that many conservatives are being harassed and victims of violence by mobs - ok, that's a point that I agree with and should be addressed. Now, when you go with that preposterous that the entire left is involved in that harassment and suppression of you ideas, than you are as well as playing to the hands of the people that do want to polarise the entire American society.
USA is a representative Republic that resorts to the democratic process to elect officials and conduct policy. It needs pluralism and diversity to progress. Just like you as a conservative is an essential element to the fabric of the nation, so are liberals and leftists.
Fine, fair enough. It's not the whole Left.
But there is some element prevalent in Leftist ideology that breeds this kind of violent suppression of Free Speech.
Conservatives protest, but you don't see anything from Conservatives like what you are seeing now from some elements of the American Left.....
Maybe "The Left" doesn't condone the actions of the Berkley terrorists, but let me ask you this; How many Leftists are willing to come out publicly and defend Milo? Not his words or ideas, but defend just his basic right to articulate and express those words and ideas? The answer? Practically none. So even if it's not the entire Left movement using these tactics, their silence is tant amount to a tacit acceptance of them...
I watch 3 or 4 different news networks. Often there is a round-table discussion and I enjoy listening to different points of views. I edited my post because it was very long, but I mentioned that there are many Republican commentators like Kayleigh McEnany and Hugh Hewitt on CNN who strongly disagree with Don Lemon and his other guests on the show. Anderson Cooper had Glenn Beck on his show the other night. Nobody can tell me he's a liberal! MSNBC hosted Trump a few times when he was campaigning.
If you just read Breitbart and watch Fox News, you will usually get one very slanted point of view. I like to get information from multiple sources and make up my own mind.
Glenn Beck is a Never Trumper and has transitioned into a liberal over the past 2 years pretty much.
Trump was even on Don Lemons show before atleast calling in. He was on every show. The media didn't give him free coverage, he took every interview and opportunity he could get even when he knew he would get grilled and it would be hostile.
One week ago I had never heard of him. Now he's known for:
- Being incredibly funny and articulate.
- Being VERY good looking. (looks like a cross between a male model and the lead from a The Great Gatsby sequel.)
- A great smile. (especially when he's got his opponents by the short & curlies)
- A freaking Libertarian. (be still my heart)
- & he's Anti - Liberal Hypocrisy. (or anti-liberal AND anti-hypocrisy).
- & he's GAY. Hah !!! The Irony !! (I'm straight, but this is a guy who could make me consider switching teams. )
- & his boyfriend is Black !! (this just keeps getting better and better !!)
- & his name is Milo Yiannopoulos....what a delicious ethnic Euro name.
- But WAIT.....he's got an upper crust, British Accent that we could listen to for hours. (Heck, Hugh Grant was boinking street walkers for goodness sake and virtually everyone gave him a pass because of that fabulous accent & his boyish good looks).
Hello???....Central Casting?? Yes....Could you send me someone who will Torture the Ctrl-Left on about 9 different levels for the next few years??
You have someone?? Wait....are you saying that every single 20 something (& 30 something) girl in the US will want to be his best friend (or will want to try to get him to switch sides).... and that 12.5% of the 20 something (& 30 something) boys/men will want to boink him & the other 87.5% just want to be as cool as him??
But there is some element prevalent in Leftist ideology that breeds this kind of violent suppression of Free Speech.
Conservatives protest, but you don't see anything from Conservatives like what you are seeing now from some elements of the American Left.....
In US, only radical anarchists among the Left do believe that violence is a legitimate method to pursue political goals. They are a tiny minority and do not have any influence on society, neither they have any influence in day-to-day political process. They are outside of the political circle and are not supported by important elements in American society.
You have to take to account that the Left is ideologically more fragmented and eclectic than the Right. On the left you can find the most radical, violent anarchic types, the centrist liberal types, social democrat types, the most authoritarian Statist types and also the most chilled out pacifist vegetarian types. It's very difficult to paint the entire left with a single brush. The Right, as a political movement, is more cohesive.
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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper 88
Maybe "The Left" doesn't condone the actions of the Berkley terrorists, but let me ask you this; How many Leftists are willing to come out publicly and defend Milo? Not his words or ideas, but defend just his basic right to articulate and express those words and ideas? The answer? Practically none. So even if it's not the entire Left movement using these tactics, their silence is tant amount to a tacit acceptance of them...
Actually they do support his right to speak. Famous liberal commentators on the Internet, particularly the TYT network, Kyle Kulinsky, David Pakman and others do came out publicly condemning the riot and making statements like supporting the right of Milo to speak publicly and express his ideas. Of course, they also added that his ideas are bullcrap and he doesn't deserve the attention he's getting...
Glenn Beck is a Never Trumper and has transitioned into a liberal over the past 2 years pretty much.
Did you mistype?
Beck a liberal?
He endorsed Cruz and every time I hear him he is advocating smaller government or conservative/libertarian ideas.
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