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So... in your world, women have no responsibility to control their fertility. How very narrow-minded and pre-1950s of you. /puke
Isn't that what you're fighting against? The notion that women are incapable of controlling their own fertility?
the men are complaining they can't get the rights to the unborn- --- women aren't lobbying for this stupid bill--
if the man raped, means she did NOT consent- why should she bear the consequences-- ??? what Madonna shouted at the march please apply
the men are complaining they can't get the rights to the unborn- --- women aren't lobbying for this stupid bill--
if the man raped, means she did NOT consent- why should she bear the consequences-- ??? what Madonna shouted at the march please apply
i dont think you read the article...
this law isnt just about spousal rape, thats a rare case, but it applies only to married couples who might disagree.
Agreed, women like that rarely give a sh*t about anyone but themselves.
And why should they care about anyone but themselves?
We're talking about pregnancy and for some reason, a pretty vocal crowd of people think pregnancy is just some walk in the park and "poof" there's a baby.
That's not how pregnancy works.
Between FMLA and the Pregnancy Discrimination Act, sure, a pregnant woman is guaranteed to time off for appointments and maternity leave. Sure, it means she can't be fired purely because of her pregnancy. But there's literally zero guarantee that she'll be able to financially support herself or any family that she is already in charge of. Without vacation/sick pay, disability, and/or company-paid maternity leave, even a wanted pregnancy means a loss of income.
In addition to lost wages, her expenses will also increase.
Clothing that will fit and not be restrictive or harmful to the growing child? Money.
Food enough to sustain her and the child? Money.
Shoes for when her feet swell? Money.
Less money + more expenses = ??????
And that's even assuming that her pregnancy goes well. Pregnancy can result in permanent physical conditions that can hinder future income-earning. Pregnancy can result in permanent mental health issues. Pregnancy can, quite literally, kill.
So why should a woman faced with an unwanted pregnancy care about some random's on the internet? Why should she care about anyone but herself when she is the one who will have to find a way to financially support herself? Sorry not sorry, but the only selfish people are the ones who desire to use pregnancy as some sort of "righteous punishment" to destroy the livelihood of someone they feel is "deplorable".
the Arkansas law that this whole thread is about entails if the pregnancy is not unwanted but wanted, not sure what you're trying to say here
So, if it is only wanted by the man, who procured it via rape... somebody should get the medical researchers to find a way to transplant the seedling into the man's body so he can have it himself. That would only be fair. The raped woman wouldn't have to carry it, and the rapist would then have full responsibility for his seed.
Child support is not for the mother. It's for the... wait for it... child.
Don't you just love how so many men seem to ignore the child in that equation?
Another option - ignoring for the moment the issue of living with the emotional burden of the pregnancy via rape - is that if the man is the only one who wants the child, he should take full responsibility, including raising the child himself. A woman who is impregnated via rape, and who is sued by the man to continue the pregnancy, also shouldn't be asked to pay child support, either.
the Arkansas law that this whole thread is about entails if the pregnancy is not unwanted but wanted
No, apparently only wanted by one parent... who is not the one who will carry and give birth to the child, and who also, in these particular cases relevant to the law, is a rapist.
Sorry... rapist daddy's opinion doesn't count (crazy AR law aside), and quite honestly never should.
So, if it is only wanted by the man, who procured it via rape... somebody should get the medical researchers to find a way to transplant the seedling into the man's body so he can have it himself. That would only be fair. The raped woman wouldn't have to carry it, and the rapist would then have full responsibility for his seed.
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Originally Posted by JerseyGirl415
No, apparently only wanted by one parent... who is not the one who will carry and give birth to the child, and who also, in these particular cases relevant to the law, is a rapist.
Sorry... rapist daddy's opinion doesn't count (crazy AR law aside), and quite honestly never should.
If you read the article it was cases between married couples, some of which are spousal rape cases (my guess is most arent.)
The fact that biology puts the responsibility of child birth on a woman, does not negate the rights of the father in protecting his unborn progeny.
Cool.
Surrogates are paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to make the choice to assume the risk of carrying a pregnancy to term. Will these fathers be forced to pay women who otherwise would have an abortion the market rate for surrogacy? If you are trying to force women to assume the VERY REAL RISK of pregnancy and childbirth, then she should be compensated accordingly.
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