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Iran is 5x larger in geographic mass than Iraq, with much more variable mountainous terrain that would conceal Iranian insurgents more easily (as opposed to flat deserts in Iraq).
Iranians are much more united as a populace than Iraq. Iran is mostly all Shia Muslim, whereas Iraq is much more fragmented (Sunni, Kurds, etc).
Nobody thought the US would ever lose against Vietnam -- a tiny "backwards" jungle country. But they did. Even with the draft.
Instigating a war with Iran would likely slaughter our sons and daughters. It's not like there's not enough trouble with the declining population of native born Americans.
That said, I am morally and religiously opposed to war altogether, but even for a hawk, this would be a very dangerous idea.
I'd rather we just focus on building the wall and screening who's allowed into the country.
Just spent the better part of a year studying how the Iranian theocracy has practiced foreign and military policies since 1979.
Oh WanderLust (above) is dead on about land size. Iran is too large to invade. Wipe that idea right off the table.
But we're thinking backwards. Rather, consider whether Iran will start a war with us.
Most likely if they do it directly - the military force they will use will be the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). The location will be the Straits of Hormuz and the target will be US shipping (civil or naval). They started the 1988 tanker war that way, have rebuilt their strike teams in the area of Qarg Island very recently, and that's where they recently grabbed two US patrol boats. Because they clearly came out on top in that encounter (and used it very publicly for domestic propaganda purposes), their confidence in such an attack should currently be high.
Most likely if they do it indirectly - the proxy force they will use will be the Houthi rebels out of Yemen as a proxy attack force, who are guided by Iran's al-Quds force (the external division of the IRGC). There is a very strong suspicion in the intel world that when the Houthis blew up a Saudi carrier last week with three suicide boats, they thought they were hitting a US Naval vessel.
Now, the question is, what will the US do in retaliation after one of the two events above occur...?
It is scary what Iran is doing with their nuclear program and test launches of ballistic missiles. Everyone in the ME is a potential target.
Is Iran like North Korea in that they need to get noticed now and again or are they much more of a real threat? Imagine them teaming up.
Iran never was and never will be our friend. I don't know why Obama was so keen on trying to buy their friendship.
Trump should back away from the ME and get to work on America first.
Iran will never change. We could drop them or go to war and in the end nothing would have changed.
I am afraid Trump admin will insist on a war to distract people from the chaos they are creating at home and abroad. Also, Trump has said he likes the idea of stealing oil.
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Just spent the better part of a year studying how the Iranian theocracy has practiced foreign and military policies since 1979.
Oh WanderLust (above) is dead on about land size. Iran is too large to invade. Wipe that idea right off the table.
But we're thinking backwards. Rather, consider whether Iran will start a war with us.
Most likely if they do it directly - the military force they will use will be the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). The location will be the Straits of Hormuz and the target will be US shipping (civil or naval). They started the 1988 tanker war that way, have rebuilt their strike teams in the area of Qarg Island very recently, and that's where they recently grabbed two US patrol boats. Because they clearly came out on top in that encounter (and used it very publicly for domestic propaganda purposes), their confidence in such an attack should currently be high.
Most likely if they do it indirectly - the proxy force they will use will be the Houthi rebels out of Yemen as a proxy attack force, who are guided by Iran's al-Quds force (the external division of the IRGC). There is a very strong suspicion in the intel world that when the Houthis blew up a Saudi carrier last week with three suicide boats, they thought they were hitting a US Naval vessel.
Now, the question is, what will the US do in retaliation after one of the two events above occur...?
Or maybe the US will stage another Gulf of Tonkin 'incident' as an excuse for yet another asinine war of choice with no benefit to the US.
Is Iran like North Korea in that they need to get noticed now and again or are they much more of a real threat? Imagine them teaming up...
No, and they already are.
Iran just got a bunch of billions of dollars from the US and UN sanctions lifted. They are selling oil hand over fist to Europe. They have all the recognition they need.
DPRK sent something like one or two hundred technicians to Iran to help them with their nuclear program years ago.
If there is a war with Iran let all of the rust belters who wanted to 'show this big city coastal elitists a thing or two' be the first and only ones to sacrifice their children's lives on the altar of Trump.
For ****'s sake you people are lunatics. Can we please go at least just one decade for once without pissing away a trillion dollars for a stupid war in a country where we don't belong? How about using a trillion to build infrastructure, advance R and D, and strengthen our defense? Stupid. Not only a month in and the Trump regime is already trying to stoke phony flames in order to march into Tehran for $2 trillion.
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