Austria bans the burqa (claim, community, women, country)
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I'm no fan of the burqa, but I fail to see how forcing a woman to remove hers is anything other than a new form of oppression.
I do agree with the poster who said anything that obscures the face should be disallowed in situations where it may be necessary to identify a person. No hoodies, hats, or sunglasses = no burqa. Otherwise, no dice.
It is not the burqa that is prohibited, it is the veil that covers the face. They can still wear the rest of it, including the parts that cover their head, neck, and other non-face parts of the body.
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Items concealing the face in public places, such as the full Islamic veil, medical masks and scarves to cover faces have been outlawed.
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Good, we shouldn't allow this oppressive garbage in western countries! And any woman that is so brainwashed/stupid to actually think it's a great thing should go back to the middle east. No sympathy for them while their brothers are raping western women.
It is about security, not oppression. Actually, in their belief, a woman that is raped is at fault for the rape, unless her rapist or 4 males that saw it attest to it being the rapist, I think that is why they cover themselves so completely. There are women that are working for change, let's hope more of them join the cause, as this change must come from within the community. They have a LOT to do in Islam when comes to treating women like humans.
Since it is just the "veil", I don't think it will make much difference in reality.
It is not the burqa that is prohibited, it is the veil that covers the face. They can still wear the rest of it, including the parts that cover their head, neck, and other non-face parts of the body.
Just an FYI - a burqa is a single piece of cloth that covers the entire body, including the face with a small screen over the eyes. Niqab is similar, but has an actual opening for the eyes. You couldn't actually wear either without covering the face, because the veil is part of the definition of what they are. Hijab covers the hair and usually the neck, but not the face. Without the veil, you're wearing hijab.
I agree that forcing a woman not to wear an article of clothing is no better than forcing her to wear it. However, if the rule is that the face must be uncovered for security reasons and other non-religious face coverings are also prohibited, that makes sense and is equitable.
Ban the men who think that women should wear a burqa.
This is actually a big part of the solution. Ban foreign funding for mosques like Austria did in order to stop the gulf state wahabbi influence. Decrease the number of middle east born clerics in favor of domestically bred moderate/liberal clerics.
The burqa and headscarf are not about piety, its about politics. It is a conservative cleric devised tactic for maintaining a wall of cultural sepration btw muslims and their neighboring communities in order to keep them conservative and different so that liberal ideas don't penetrate into their community. For this reason and security purposes the full burqa should be banned and the headscarf should be critiqued and criticized.
I have no problem with the ban. My sympathies are with Muslim women. Walking at the park throughout the summer in 90 degree heat, it does not escape anyone that something is wrong when only women have to comply with a cultural dress code. Men and young children dress in western wear: shorts and tees. Women and girls from a certain age are covered from head to foot. It's depressing to look at knowing that they have to be stewing from the heat and humidity.
Their men should be required to dress the same way or everybody in western wear.
Good! Wearing a full head covering is a safety issue.
On another note, if you want a better life outside of your home country, why not put aside one of the things that makes your home country a bad place to live?
I consider people who abstain from sex before marriage because their religion tells them so to be awfully oppressed. I wonder if we could ban that?
In my thirties, I abstained from sex before marriage for a few years in order to not get trapped into bad dating habits. Throughout my twenties, I remained in some awful relationships by justifying them with sex. I also dated some very annoying women in order to sleep with them because they looked good.
When you date someone because you really enjoy their company, you tend to be in much better relationships.
Ask some guys if they ever stayed in a relationship for sex. I'd bet at least half have.
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