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Old 02-07-2017, 08:49 AM
 
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The United States has supported more dictators, more oppressive regimes, watched more people dying, started more wars, killed more innocent people after WWII than all other countries combined.

I may be off a little on my math but you get the idea.

But we are super innocent and have moral superiority.
No argument from me. But, what if President Obama had voiced that same opinion?
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Old 02-07-2017, 08:56 AM
 
Location: SA
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The United States has supported more dictators, more oppressive regimes, watched more people dying, started more wars, killed more innocent people after WWII than all other countries combined.

I may be off a little on my math but you get the idea.

But we are super innocent and have moral superiority.
No true. The Soviet Union and their muppets communist parties around the world did their part too.
We are forgetting that post WWII US policy was to stop the Soviets and China invading as many countries as they could.
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:03 AM
 
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I wonder if we can ship Trump to Russia. He seems to respect Putin's political killings. From the comments on this board, one can deduct that Trump's fan base supports this, too.

O’Reilly told Trump that Putin is a killer. His reply: ‘You think our country is so innocent?’ – The Denver Post
I would not say it is defending Putin, but more like "do not throw rocks from a glass house."
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Somehow I doubt you read all the Russian papers yesterday.
Of course I did not read all of them. Argumenty i fakty, RT, and Rossiiskaya Gazeta all covered the story. It's been picked up by the Western press today, I see.
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I would not say it is defending Putin, but more like "do not throw rocks from a glass house."
Really?

So, we have seen Trump attack and criticize: the press, EPA, Congressional members (both GOP and Dems), federal judges, Mexico, Iran, Australia, Arnold Schwarzenegger, protesters, Obama, SNL, California, Meryl Streep, refugees, Lockheed, Chicago, George Bush, POWs and the USA.

Could you cite some examples of anything negative he has said about Putin or Russia?

They either have something on him, or he is an idiot.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Center City
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Putin either has pee-pee pix or Trump has undisclosed financial interests in Russia.

Or both.
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Old 02-07-2017, 11:28 AM
 
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I believe that one are where both liberals and conservatives would agree is that the United States needs to stop with foreign engagements.
I've seen no evidence of that from either side.
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Old 02-07-2017, 11:33 AM
 
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Really?

So, we have seen Trump attack and criticize: the press, EPA, Congressional members (both GOP and Dems), federal judges, Mexico, Iran, Australia, Arnold Schwarzenegger, protesters, Obama, SNL, California, Meryl Streep, refugees, Lockheed, Chicago, George Bush, POWs and the USA.

Could you cite some examples of anything negative he has said about Putin or Russia?

They either have something on him, or he is an idiot.
Yea, really. The US hardly has a perfect record on the global stage and in the US itself. Not saying it is wrong or right, but just what it is. If the US is going to go hyperventilating mode in criticizing another country's actions, the US better have their ducks in a row first, and not go on a tirade of cherry picking to avoid the counter that comes up.

Trump has not criticized most countries and leaders in the world, he seems to have only leveled criticism at countries that are of real relevance to the US, like Mexico and China, and so far has only slightly followed the typical neocon foreign policy path.

Haley criticized Russia, rather harshly, at the UN.
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:23 PM
 
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No. We've supported and propped up FAR worse than Putin in the past. We are demonizing Putin for other reasons and using moral superiority as a smokescreen.
No doubt.
Regarding Russian expansion we need to have details concerning the relationship between Russia and the areas Russia is interested in expanding in. We need an accurate account directly from Russian leaders.

What facts did O'Reilly give to declare Putin a killer. Also what kind of comment is that for him to make?
Exactly how is that the object when the question was concerning co-operation with the Russian President?

It has been pointed out that we have strengthened our strategic position concerning Russia in the past decade. We are now at a distinct advantage over them. I imagine they know this and feel the weight.

IMHO we can strengthen our ties with Russia without exposing our jugular. I think it could benefit both countries.
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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No doubt.
Regarding Russian expansion we need to have details concerning the relationship between Russia and the areas Russia is interested in expanding in. We need an accurate account directly from Russian leaders.
Did Russia demand we explain ourselves when we expanded into Iraq and Afghanistan?

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What facts did O'Reilly give to declare Putin a killer. Also what kind of comment is that for him to make?
Exactly how is that the object when the question was concerning co-operation with the Russian President?

It has been pointed out that we have strengthened our strategic position concerning Russia in the past decade. We are now at a distinct advantage over them. I imagine they know this and feel the weight.

IMHO we can strengthen our ties with Russia without exposing our jugular. I think it could benefit both countries.
O'Reilly's ratings would have been higher if Hillary would have won. He's just trying to drum up any old thing for attention.
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