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When you add suicides into gun-related deaths you will get the outcome this study wanted in the first place. This study wants people to ignore that little asterisk at the bottom and assume that it is violent criminal gun related deaths. Suicide is by far the highest death toll from guns. What does that have to do with permits?
This is a lie and a PERFECT example of how the libbies and the media LIE. The area with the most non-suicide gun violence per 100k people is D.C. and they have strict gun laws. The media spins the stats. This is directly from the FBI's statistics.
Gun murders per 100k people from stats in 2010 : The highest was Washington, D.C. :
The PER 100k people stat is the only one that matters. Any article that isn't using the FBI statistics and the PER 100k people numbers is a lefty media article trying to lie.
The chart speaks to deaths and you extended it to mean murders instead. Not the same thing. Deaths includes accidental deaths (hunting or such) and suicides. The charts has 9.1 deaths per 100,000 population in Vermont. That would be almost 5 per month in this State but the reality is we average about 1 murder per month. Adjusted for population we have the lowest violent crime rate in the nation. And we have virtually no gun laws.
^^^^This. It's highly manipulative to include suicides in any gun death charts. I'm also of the opinion that justified shootings should be left out when anti-gunners are talking about numbers in a way that suggests criminal violence. The mother who hides in a closet with her two kids, is still pursued by someone breaking into her home, and ends up shooting her attacker... there is no way that kind of "gun death" should be a part of "gun violence" talking points.
Removing suicides drops the overall numbers in this country by two-thirds. In addition, the number of homicides by gun have dropped faster than homicides by other method. There's no way to tell, definitively, what the cause of that drop is, but at the same time gun homicides have been dropping, more states have eased their restrictions on guns than have strengthened them.
Trump-holes cling to their guns....facts matter not to them.
Ignorant liberal anti gun nuts long ago tossed any claim to using facts. They're utterly ignorant on the subject have no idea what the laws are, where or who commits the crimes with or without firearms and either choose to remain ignorant, or just outright lie, to push your agenda.
65% of "gun deaths" are suicides, 85% of the rest are felons killing other felons - so it's no wonder liberals want to 'solve' that problem. If you aren't a felon and aren't going to kill yourself you're more likely to die from the flu. But don't let the FACTS get in your way, your kind never do.
The chart speaks to deaths and you extended it to mean murders instead. Not the same thing. Deaths includes accidental deaths (hunting or such) and suicides. The charts has 9.1 deaths per 100,000 population in Vermont. That would be almost 5 per month in this State but the reality is we average about 1 murder per month. Adjusted for population we have the lowest violent crime rate in the nation. And we have virtually no gun laws.
Yes indeed. The char itself plainly states the figures include ALL firearms related deaths. Not just murders. Hunting accidents, suicides cops killing bad guys, citizen self defense, negligent discharge, everything. That said, one would expect AK to be higher than the lower 48. With hunting being a subsistence endeavor more often than for sport reasons, that alone could increase accidents with so many people afield looking to feed their families.
I can't recall a "study" like this that ever reflected just crime related firearms deaths. Lumping EVERYTHING in skews the view. Even though this is the case the anti firearms types always cite the figures as being totally related to crime. They're not. If only the murder related figure were presented it wouldn't reflect the ....proper agenda. My state, NV, shows a high gun death rate. But the actual muder rate here is pretty low. A high percentage are suicides, by non residents. People who lost it all at the casinos and just off themselves. The actual resident suicide rate is high as well, for the aforementioned reason as well as a few others. Most of it comes out of Vegas as well. Not the larger Northern cities.
When examining gun related deaths, things need to be separated by type. Truly accurate actual MURDER separate from all others. When that alone is the single factor, the stats move around a bit. Suicides, in particular, are something not as closely related to firearms ownership among a population as the anti firearms people would have us believe. If someone wants to check out and see whats next, a gun is hardly the only option. One need only look at Japan to see that. Firearms ownership prohibited and one of the highest suicide rates in the developed world. Low murder, but extremely high suicide.
There are many reasons for that, that we don't really have here in the US so much as in Japan, but still it goes to show how that data being included in this chart really skews things. Such charts and the "studies" behind them are thus not really admissible in evidence that "gun control" really works. But objective examination of the gun control issue isn't the strong suit of the gun prohibition crowd.
What kind of circular logic is this? So we should have laws banning cars? Cars kill people so lets outlaw cars.
No, ever heard of a drivers license. Operating a car is highly regulated, buying a firearm is not.
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