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Old 02-06-2017, 05:20 AM
 
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Really, are the best professionals living in Jemen, Syria, Iraque, etc.

If that is so than why are these countries doing so badly?
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Old 02-06-2017, 05:36 AM
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Trump Is Right: Silicon Valley Is Using H-1B Visas To Pay Low Wages To Immigrants | The Huffington Post

American workers were losing jobs to those from overseas and then had to train their new replacements in order to receive their severance packages
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Old 02-06-2017, 06:13 AM
 
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Hypocrisy at best with these liberal companies
Lies, deceive and more, just to get their liberal agenda across.
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Old 02-06-2017, 06:15 AM
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Both companies are multi-national, if a person they want can not come to this country then let them work at another office. Live feed meetings can ensure collaboration with others that are stateside..

Unless of course if the only attractant they can offer a potential employee is a visa to come to our country..
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Old 02-06-2017, 06:15 AM
 
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There are now some 100 corporations, including Apple etc tech giants who are suing Trump. Their biggest concern is the overall instability and unpredictability which Trump has introduced to the United States economy, and even globally. Its bad for business.
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Old 02-06-2017, 06:15 AM
 
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Really, are the best professionals living in Jemen, Syria, Iraque, etc.

If that is so than why are these countries doing so badly?


Maybe they should lower the bar and not seek the "best". The work will still get done.
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Old 02-06-2017, 06:17 AM
 
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Read the link.

#spock voice fascinating.

I knew it went on. Had no idea the degree.

One of the few areas I see righties and lefties often agreeing is H1b's.
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Old 02-06-2017, 06:40 AM
 
Location: MID ATLANTIC
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This immobility is of huge value to many employers, as it means that a foreign worker can’t leave them in the lurch in the midst of an urgent project. In a 2012 meeting between Google and several researchers, including myself, the firm explained the advantage of hiring foreign workers: the company can’t prevent the departure of Americans, but the foreign workers are stuck. David Swaim, an immigration lawyer who designed Texas Instruments’ immigration policy and is now in private practice, overtly urges employers to hire foreign students instead of Americans.

This stranglehold on foreign workers enables firms to pay low wages. Academics with industry funding claim otherwise, but one can see how it makes basic economic sense: If a worker is not a free agent in the labor market, she cannot swing the best salary deal. And while the industry’s clout gives it bipartisan congressional support concerning H-1B and green card policy, Congress’s own commissioned report found that H-1B workers “received lower wages, less senior job titles, smaller signing bonuses and smaller pay and compensation increases than would be typical for the work they actually did.”
These two paragraphs say it all. I have a 23 year old that will compete with these same imported workers. And, I am troubled because he doesn't see this what this practice has done to entry level tech positions. Time may change his attitude, I just hope bitterness doesn't accompany the change.
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Old 02-06-2017, 06:43 AM
 
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Really, are the best professionals living in Jemen, Syria, Iraque, etc.

If that is so than why are these countries doing so badly?
Its Yemen and Iraq.

Their education system is different than ours. Students are often streamed into those classes at which they've shown a proficiency. Unlike the US who wants to return to the Industrial Age of shirt factories and farming, these countries do seem to understand the importance of teaching students for the future economy.
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Old 02-06-2017, 06:50 AM
 
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Maybe they should lower the bar and not seek the "best". The work will still get done.
This is about the most idiotic thing I have read so far in this thread.

It's clear you don't understand that the US just does not have a high number of top scientists and engineers to choose from. This is the reason we import so many from abroad. The US is full of STEM illiterate folks.

It's important to have top notch scientists and engineers...it's what drives discovery and innovation, which contributes to a countries economy.
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