Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Closed Thread Start New Thread
 
Old 02-08-2017, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
7,605 posts, read 4,844,197 times
Reputation: 1438

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by andywire View Post
Trump = jobs

Obama = bathroom confusion

So glad the country is shifting in a new, productive, constructive direction

Actually, I would describe it more as a return to basics. Government's job is going to be getting the hell out of the way, so the free market can deliver prosperity. Food stamps/welfare is not prosperity, and it never will be.

Liberals may not like any of this, but they don't run the country any longer.
The jobs creation goal posted on the whitehouse.gov site by the Trump administration is the same rate of job growth that we have seen over the last 6 years.

So with the focus on jobs, the Trump Administration's goal is match the Obama Administration on job creation.

 
Old 02-08-2017, 07:38 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
68,329 posts, read 54,373,658 times
Reputation: 40736
The divide is Conservatives care about fixing REAL issues, Liberals care about grade school crap


Oh? Please do regale us with stories of ALL the REAL issues Conservatives have resolved in recent history when they've been in power.
 
Old 02-08-2017, 07:38 PM
 
10,920 posts, read 6,908,243 times
Reputation: 4942
Quote:
Originally Posted by GABESTA535 View Post
Automation is a big reason why we don't have as many jobs that don't require a high school education anymore. Automation is a huge reason why his campaign rhetoric of bringing back huge amount of factory jobs to this country is impossible. By not mentioning it, he's ignoring the elephant in the room and giving people false hope.
Unfortunately, there's a lot of truth to that.

Which is why I think he's focusing on the wrong things. Don't focus on trying to bring back jobs that don't exist anymore...focus on innovating and incentivizing American companies to re-purpose our awesome manufacturing infrastructure in new and exciting ways. Example: Make the Midwest the center of renewable energy research and production. Invest STEM education heavily in these areas.

We can make these areas great - but we can't give people false hope that 1950 (or even 1980) is coming back anytime soon. Many of those jobs just don't even exist anymore.
 
Old 02-08-2017, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
29,818 posts, read 24,898,335 times
Reputation: 28512
Quote:
Originally Posted by GABESTA535 View Post
Automation is a big reason why we don't have as many jobs that don't require a high school education anymore. Automation is a huge reason why his campaign rhetoric of bringing back huge amount of factory jobs to this country is impossible. By not mentioning it, he's ignoring the elephant in the room and giving people false hope.
If American workers want better incomes, they need to produce more while at work. Automation allows companies to produce more, and therefore, pay more. A win for everyone. And if government gets out of the way, there will be enough winning to go around for all. Something else that Trump has been promising.
 
Old 02-08-2017, 07:56 PM
 
800 posts, read 508,439 times
Reputation: 700
Quote:
Originally Posted by evilcart View Post
It is difficult to even know where to start, your post is so general and clearly avoids telling us how the GOP is helping our economy.
If it ever seems like sometimes the GOP is vague about how to help the economy or too general in their plans..its sometimes because we believe in largely getting OUT of the way of the economy and business. Sometimes there isnt much to talk about when the solution to something equals doing less of what you've previously been doing.

Its like one of the basic philosophies behind conservatism and liberalism. This is rarely discussed and under reported. Conservatism believes in improving one's self morally, economically, and otherwise. Doing what it takes to improve your situation in life, and IF those around you do the same thing, then society will be in good hands and take care of itself. Progressives focus on what they perceive to be injustices around them, and focus on changing other groups of people. It is focused on changing those OUTWARD, rather than yourself INWARD, hence big government. You can never "improve" other groups of people to your own liking effectively or efficiently, and it often just breeds resentment and division.
 
Old 02-08-2017, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
19,719 posts, read 16,837,015 times
Reputation: 41863
Quote:
Originally Posted by DorianRo View Post
Politically correct gaga. "Dont hurt my feelings", "Should a president say that?" "Treat people with respect". "Dont offend anyone"

Thats the major divide. Conservatives are spending their time trying to really fix issues while we had 8 years of the exact opposite before that.

Ive spent the last hour listening to Wolf Blitzer and every question is, "Should a president be saying that?"


Lets get to work and FIX the country for once shall we??? Thats the important thing isn't it? Not what one person says that may offend someone. For *** sakes. We're all adults here. Not in 6th grade anymore.


Jeesh we finally got a guy into office trying to IMPROVE the situation, domestic and foreign, and all the liberals are whining about is, "Should a president be saying that?"

So, your opinion is the only one that matters ? Maybe some of us see it differently, and who is to say we are wrong ?

You see Trump and his bravado as being encouraging, we see it as being without class, without temperament, and without forethought.........not to mention without experience. A leader needs to exhibit a certain degree of self control and diplomacy, otherwise he will alienate those people he needs supporting things he wants to accomplish. Trump has none of those qualities whatsoever, and I think he is seeing how ineffectual he is going to be because of his crude approach to everything.

The real world is not a scripted reality show. Running a country is not like running a real estate business, something else he is finding out by the hour.
 
Old 02-08-2017, 08:04 PM
 
6,822 posts, read 6,633,481 times
Reputation: 3769
Quote:
Originally Posted by DorianRo View Post
Politically correct gaga. "Dont hurt my feelings", "Should a president say that?" "Treat people with respect". "Dont offend anyone"

Thats the major divide. Conservatives are spending their time trying to really fix issues while we had 8 years of the exact opposite before that.

Ive spent the last hour listening to Wolf Blitzer and every question is, "Should a president be saying that?"


Lets get to work and FIX the country for once shall we??? Thats the important thing isn't it? Not what one person says that may offend someone. For *** sakes. We're all adults here. Not in 6th grade anymore.


Jeesh we finally got a guy into office trying to IMPROVE the situation, domestic and foreign, and all the liberals are whining about is, "Should a president be saying that?"
THis goes long beyond 8 years of Obama, but that administration is also to blame for kicking the can down the road.

You are correct though that real issues are being focused on that need resolved.


If they aren't, than we will be a shadow of what we once were.


Many out there just don't get it. They can't see past what's right in front of them to see the big picture.
 
Old 02-08-2017, 08:31 PM
 
1,438 posts, read 778,967 times
Reputation: 1732
Quote:
Originally Posted by andywire View Post
If American workers want better incomes, they need to produce more while at work. Automation allows companies to produce more, and therefore, pay more. A win for everyone. And if government gets out of the way, there will be enough winning to go around for all. Something else that Trump has been promising.
Automation=less workers. What's there not to understand? They may pay more per employee but there's way less employees that they need to pay.
 
Old 02-08-2017, 08:39 PM
 
800 posts, read 508,439 times
Reputation: 700
Quote:
Originally Posted by GABESTA535 View Post
Automation=less workers. What's there not to understand? They may pay more per employee but there's way less employees that they need to pay.
Perfect. We won't miss the illegals when we take them away from thier jobs and deport them then. Legal citizens can fill any low skill voids left over and update thier skills and training when needed.
 
Old 02-08-2017, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
3,211 posts, read 2,242,132 times
Reputation: 2607
Quote:
Originally Posted by DorianRo View Post
Politically correct gaga. "Dont hurt my feelings", "Should a president say that?" "Treat people with respect". "Dont offend anyone"

Thats the major divide. Conservatives are spending their time trying to really fix issues while we had 8 years of the exact opposite before that.

Ive spent the last hour listening to Wolf Blitzer and every question is, "Should a president be saying that?"


Lets get to work and FIX the country for once shall we??? Thats the important thing isn't it? Not what one person says that may offend someone. For *** sakes. We're all adults here. Not in 6th grade anymore.


Jeesh we finally got a guy into office trying to IMPROVE the situation, domestic and foreign, and all the liberals are whining about is, "Should a president be saying that?"
Great point. Liberals spend all of their energy trying to correct and become outraged over what somebody says while Conservatives just go out and get the work done and fix things.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:42 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top