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Old 02-09-2017, 12:18 PM
 
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post
It's not being celebrated, it's being lamented.
He means "celebrated", like the thousands of Muslims dancing in the streets of USA when when we got attacked on 9/11. (aka: "not")

 
Old 02-09-2017, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Coming here for tourism and immigration are two different things. Nothing has changed for anyone coming here as a tourist.
This is about tourism from visa waiver countries like Western Europe and Australia.
 
Old 02-09-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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Tourism and immigration are two different things, nothing has changed about it when coming into the US since Trump has been president.
Tourists pass through US Customs and Immigrations, it's what it says right on the sign.
 
Old 02-09-2017, 12:21 PM
 
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Originally Posted by flamadiddle View Post
"IF" it's real, I don't care, the Security of our nation trumps tourism.
Security of our nation is in danger?

You all need to get a grip.

We're in more danger from a local nut with an assault weapon than some guy from Yemen. (Although, maybe that's changed since the bungled raid in Yemen where we killed all those women and kids.)

Bannon did this Muslim travel ban to cause a commotion, see what he could get away with.

It was a good way to divert attention from folks noticing that right after Trump goaded the Intelligence Community into revealing their sources on his Russian connections, one ex-KGB agent was found dead in the back of his Lexus, and three Russian cybersecurity experts were hauled off to prison with bags over their heads.
 
Old 02-09-2017, 12:22 PM
 
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Has anyone considered that the maniacs acting out in the streets and reported overseas have caused the decline?
The protests are being reported in a positive light across the EU and western world. The people saying "riot" etc are just right wingers, nobody else is buying that story.. in fact Europeans are protesting Trump in France, UK, Germany etc...

so it might just be they don't like trump. they don't trust trump and the are not interested in coming here if we are going to treat them poorly....

I am sorry Laura, but one could drive a double decker through your argument and with ease.


Trump's refusal to represent ALL Americans and his desire to pander to racists, to push , fear, uncertainty and doubt, is at the root of this problem.
 
Old 02-09-2017, 12:22 PM
 
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Has anyone considered that the maniacs acting out in the streets and reported overseas have caused the decline?
Not to mention the left leaning media that continues to spew lies and one sided stories.
 
Old 02-09-2017, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Elgin, Illinois
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Originally Posted by evilcart View Post
Well we heard that Hard bookings already declined a couple of percent, but it looks like it might be much worse .


Globally fight searches to the USA have fallen off a cliff, and the bad news is this is the busiest time of year for vacation bookings.

Overall we can see a 17% decline in searches for travel TO the USA! And remember Tourists are counted as exports in terms of deficit. A drop as high as 20% of tourists in FL would be a major disaster. Hopefully it will not be as bad and maybe visitors will come later, but it could be worse if Trump does not stop his crazy antics .

This is what happens when the world sees us as the bad guys, it could cost the economy billions if Trump does not do something to turn this around.




"""Hopper.com data revealed that searches dropped for U.S.-bound flights from 94 out of the 122 countries in the report. Curiously, the one place experiencing a sharp increase in demand for flight searches to the U.S. is Russia"""

International tourism’s value to the economy is also calculated as an export, so any reduction in tourists from overseas could also exacerbate the US’s trade deficit—exactly the opposite of Trump’s stated policy goals.

Analysis shows big decline in fare searches after Trump-ordered travel ban: Travel Weekly

https://qz.com/904883/the-effect-tru...nd-air-travel/


Trump Immigration Ban Decreases Flight Searches to U.S. | Money
I see from the first article that 21% decline from Mexico, that can't be good considering most tourists that visit the U.S. Come from Mexico (19 million back in 2015), next closest is Canada with 11 million, 3rd is U.K. With 4.6 million.
 
Old 02-09-2017, 12:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by evilcart View Post
The protests are being reported in a positive light across the EU and western world. The people saying "riot" etc are just right wingers, nobody else is buying that story.. in fact Europeans are protesting Trump in France, UK, Germany etc...

so it might just be they don't like trump. they don't trust trump and the are not interested in coming here if we are going to treat them poorly....

I am sorry Laura, but one could drive a double decker through your argument and with ease.


Trump's refusal to represent ALL Americans and his desire to pander to racists, to push , fear, uncertainty and doubt, is at the root of this problem.
Could you please explain where they got the impression they would be treated poorly? Poorly in what way and by who?
 
Old 02-09-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Having plenty of friends abroad, I know many who are saying they won't visit US for a while. Not only are they turned off by Trump, but there are all kinds of immigration measures which will harass tourists by asking for their social media presence etc.
I won't be visiting Europe, especially France and Germany either. I was thinking a bout a cruise with one of the ports in Turkey but changed my mind because of the attacks.

The problem is, the left want to think of Trump as the enemy instead of the real issues.
 
Old 02-09-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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I have a coworker in Germany who is flying to Bahama in a month. He said, they purposely are not flying thru USA because of immigration hassle.
Unless they have a stamp in their passport from one of the 7 countries why would this be a problem? The Visa Waiver Program is still in effect and their passport is all they need.

https://www.cbp.gov/travel/internati...waiver-program
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