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View Poll Results: What Will The Appeals Court Do?
Votes to Reinstate the Executive Order 37 29.84%
Votes to Continue the Stay by the Seattle Court 77 62.10%
Votes to Restrict New Visitors Only 7 5.65%
Votes to Send the Stay Back to Seattle 3 2.42%
Voters: 124. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-10-2017, 09:25 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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He has not provided evidence + there is not enough evidence to support the EO's intent to satisfy that class of people is detrimental to our interests, therefore no. Which, unless proven otherwise. The court is correct to rule against the EO.
The evidence is in the fact, we are currently in a Holy War, and has been waged upon our soil by jihadists. These nations, in turmoil are full of jihadist.
Let's just let them all in. After all, it is a Right to come to America.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:27 AM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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The evidence is in the fact, we are currently in a Holy War, and has been waged upon our soil by jihadists. These nations, in turmoil are full of jihadist.
Let's just let them all in. After all, it is a Right to come to America.
We mean physical evidence.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:29 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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When is the last time a President waged war legally? Congress approves the money of course...but we haven't had a formally declared war since 1945
The UN has gotten us into all conflicts since, directing our forces how to occupy a presents in foreign nations, to be the targets of assassination.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:30 AM
 
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Clearly their ruling was not based upon the text of the law. It expanded the US Constitutions protections to all people in the world, without amending the Constitution.

Only We the People of the United States of America, are under the full protections of the US Constitution.


It does not say, We the People of Earth.
The executive order was vague and poorly written. If it hadn't been so poorly written and so poorly executed, then there wouldn't have been so many issues.

And you expansion comments are tripe. Since the hold does not expand anything, could not expand anything. It's a hold. And WE the People of the United States of America are privileged to have the US Constitution enumerating our rights and protecting them.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:31 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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While 86% of the 9th Circuit's rulings that have been weighed by the Supreme Court have been overturned, the majority of the 9th Circuit's rulings never go on to the Supreme Court.
Maybe a look into the other rulings is in order and we can restore a little more liberties.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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Because we are in a Holy War... What else do you need.

Importing a form of government, that is in direct conflict with the US Constitution.
We are not in a Holy War.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:33 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Please read the actual decision

http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastor...9/17-35105.pdf

There are some details you are missing....
Yes I read it. It expands the due process of the US constitution, to all people on EARTH.

It rewrote the first 7 words of the US Constitution. Removing the words Untied States of America and changed it to EARTH.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:34 AM
 
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Maybe a look into the other rulings is in order and we can restore a little more liberties.
Maybe you can tell the Supreme Court that. I'm sure they'd love to go from 64 cases to almost 12,000 cases a year. As for restoring a little more liberties, it's not a case of a loss of liberties in most cases. It's a shift in liberties. Citizens versus businesses, individuals versus money. Conservatives tend to be on the side of businesses and money rights, liberals on the side of individuals.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:36 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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There are deadlines to appeal the case and Trump may lose the opportunity if he tries to wait it out. Also, Gorsuch will be one of nine justices on the Supreme Court and there's no telling how the others will rule. Nor is there any indication about how Gorsuch will rule. While he's conservative, he's not a lap dog and he's not stupid.

Finally, I'm pretty sure that any forthcoming ruling is just about the stay of the EO. Whether it's stayed or not, it will eventually go back to Robart for a ruling on the merits. I haven't read the pleadings so I'm not sure this is accurate, but I think it is.
Kagen has already hinted Trump is right.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:38 AM
 
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Yes I read it. It expands the due process of the US constitution, to all people on EARTH.

It rewrote the first 7 words of the US Constitution. Removing the words Untied States of America and changed it to EARTH.
Alternative facts.
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