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It would kill the private insurance companies. There's hundreds of Billions of USD in the insurance industry. Plenty of money to lobby with.
because it will turn upside down our economy......the reason Democrats didn't pass single payer with their solid majority from 2009-2011 was because many Democrats are against it and they don't believe the federal government should take over the Healthcare industry.
Not everybody in the Democrat party are socialists regardless of what they say to throw red meat at their base.
Yes, but he was the one who promised to repeal it on day one....no one asked him to do it. He chose to promise this.
And he's working on it. I do find it funny/hypocritical that y'all are trying to hold Trump to a standard that you NEVER held Obama or any other past president to. In the past, campaign promises were actually maybes or outright LIES to get votes.
At this point Trump has acted on more of his campaign promises than most any of his predecessors at this point in time.
So, make up your minds, is he going too fast as many complain (it was derisively called "shock and awe" by one congressman) or, is he not going fast enough?
Just admit it, the GOP can't deliver on the promise to repeal and replace because they had no plan all along and did nothing the whole time except complain. Trump already failing to deliver on his campaign promise of repealing ACA on day 1. And where is the wall that Mexico was supposed to pay for? There's been no construction yet. Another failed Trump promise....
Hopefully, this is a joke, his appointments aren't even all in place yet.
Option 3. Single payer healthcare (like the rest of the world). Lower costs for everybody, everybody covered.
Simply expand medicare for all ages and make it required. We're already paying for it out of every single paycheck.
Oh HELL no! I don't feel like waiting in a months long line for simple operations or doctor visits or having to justify my very LIFE once I reach an elderly age...
I actually do too. I don't like him, but these huge projects take time. Heck, they might even take his whole term to come to fruition. As for the abolishment of Obamacare, I truly hope the Rs have a replacement before they dismantle the program.
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for the millions of Americans that their premiums got raised over 65% under Obamacare and they lost their doctors and got their hours cut at work, any plan is better than what the Democrats promised and lied to the country.
anybody that tells me don't worry I will cut your healthcare premiums by $2,500 a year and you can keep your doctor and instead raises your premiums $5,000 a year and you can't keep your doctor, I will have a hard time voting for that party again.
Democrats messed up and they have the nerve to tell Americans lets keep an insane law (Bill Clinton's words) based on lies and deceit? they should just step aside and sit on the bench on this one and let the Republicans try to fix what they created.
You must have not read my very brief comment. I said "I truly hope the Rs have a replacement before they dismantle the program." No matter how bad Obamacare is, and it's pretty bad, at least it's SOMETHING. Something beats nothing all to pieces. And for those to whom it's too expensive, they can take the penalty. I agree that Obamacare is broken and it needs fixing. But I have to give Obama props for coming up with something, rather than doing nothing and just saying "Our healthcare system doesn't work." So now it's up to Republicans to fix it. Simply getting rid of it and replacing it with the nothing we had before is NOT a solution.
You must have not read my very brief comment. I said "I truly hope the Rs have a replacement before they dismantle the program." No matter how bad Obamacare is, and it's pretty bad, at least it's SOMETHING. Something beats nothing all to pieces. And for those to whom it's too expensive, they can take the penalty. Obamacare is broken. It needs fixing. But I have to give Obama props for coming up with something, rather than doing nothing and just saying "Our healthcare system doesn't work."
Health care was shambles when he took office. Premiums were increasing until many small businesses just dropped health insurance as a benefit.
People were being denied coverage or being dropped if they developed a need for expensive care. Medical bills were leading to bankruptcies left and right.
Lot of people simply didn't have insurance and relied on ERs for care. Untreated diabetes, rotator cuff tears, etc. were leading to people getting on SSI and SSDI.
because it will turn upside down our economy......the reason Democrats didn't pass single payer with their solid majority from 2009-2011 was because many Democrats are against it and they don't believe the federal government should take over the Healthcare industry.
Not everybody in the Democrat party are socialists regardless of what they say to throw red meat at their base.
They didn't have the kind of "solid majority" needed to pass single payer, which is a super majority. There were several blue dog Democrats who stood in the way of getting single payer through, most notably Bill Nelson of Nebraska. He would only agree to support legislation that did not include a public option.
Coleman kept Franken out of his rightful seat until July, during which time Coleman was still sitting in the Senate, so it was 59-41, no super majority. By the time Franken finally got seated, technically giving the Democrats a 60-40 majority, Ted Kennedy had gotten sick and he never returned for a single vote during that time. His seat went to a Republican, ending the super majority that barely was.
This fake meme of how the Democrats had a veto-proof majority in the Senate for two years is BS. They never had that veto-proof majority long enough to accomplish anything with it.
Just admit it, the GOP can't deliver on the promise to repeal and replace because they had no plan all along and did nothing the whole time except complain. Trump already failing to deliver on his campaign promise of repealing ACA on day 1. And where is the wall that Mexico was supposed to pay for? There's been no construction yet. Another failed Trump promise....
Do you seriously believe these things can be accomplished in 20 days?
I agree 100%. Not to mention you have a healthier population that isn't afraid to go to the doctor. I can't tell you how many coworkers and friends who had broken something or were very sick and refused to go because they couldn't pay their deductible.
The reason why the Republicans won't go for it is because it would essentially kill the private for-profit insurance industry except for the handful who want supplemental coverage.
The issue is we're viewing it completely wrong. It shouldn't be health *insurance*. Insurance implies that you're essentially betting against the odds that something *could* happen. With healthcare, it's a given that through your life you will get sick, injured or have issues. It's also a 100% fact that you will die at some point. For some, that could be at the age of 90, others could be 45 or 50 and require hundreds of thousands in healthcare up to that point of death. But everyone will die.
Exactly. In addition to the for-profit part, that obviously adds to the total cost of healthcare, the overhead is humongous compared to Medicare.
Yeah, I guess we need someone like Obama who got Gitmo closed down in the first 20 days and ended the wars in Iraq and Pakistan in 20 days ... oh wait...
The President is not an Emperor nor a Tyrant. He must act within the confines of his Constitutional powers and work with the Congress to move his vision forward.
It is really sad how little some people understand how our Constitutionally organized federal government is supposed to operate.
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they should just step aside and sit on the bench on this one and let the Republicans try to fix what they created.
