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Old 03-19-2017, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Originally Posted by tipsywicket View Post
Why is everyone so shocked. We have been experiencing this same thing for the past 8 years! We are still on the Titanic people, only the deck chairs have been rearranged.
Equating Obama (who inherited the Recession) to Trump is just a diversion. Obama had a lot more integrity and intelligence, which was obvious in the way he spoke vs. Trumps verbal effluent and constant insults. Those who think it's all "the same thing" are deluded. Obama at least meant well and wasn't in it solely for his own glory. Trump is a classic megalomaniac.

Why change the subject from Trump's barrage of lies to other people who tell far fewer lies, and certainly not such blatant ones? Trump is also more than a standard liar, he doesn't even care about the truth, i.e. he has no conscience.

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Old 03-19-2017, 01:04 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I don't start many threads here, but this deserves sharing.

I know the Trump lemmings will see the link to HuffPo and scream "fake news!" But it's a video of Trump himself, clearly stating (twice) that he has a relationship with Putin. The clip is from a 2013 interview.

Trump recently stated he didn't know Putin.

Trump is a fraud and liar. His regime is a sham.

Trump Admits To 'Relationship' With Putin In Resurfaced Video | The Huffington Post
Ohhhhhhh ...they were "both on 60 minutes, and he was in Russia once because of the Miss Universe Pageant. I'm sure they talked a lot about foreign policy since Putin must have known that he would one day run for President.

There is a big difference between having "met" Putin and having a meaningful relationship in a political or business sense. Neither is the case. He was talking about Putin as an acquaintance, not as a personal close friend.

But let me ask you ...how many times did Obama lie? Born in Hawaii? We know it was a lie. His so-called birth certificate was a forgery, and now Hawaii says they have no record of him having been born there.

Neither was he a "Constitutional professor." He wasn't eve a professor. He was a lecturer.

We had eight years of a "sham" of a President.
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Old 03-19-2017, 01:07 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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You missed the big point........your boy is a lying SOS. That is what we are discussing here !
You probably think Obama was a Saint, too. He lied continually. Some of his lies got people killed ..."Al Qaeda is on the run." ISIS is contained."
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Old 03-19-2017, 01:09 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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did trump sell putin 25% of our uranium supply?


did trump defend putin in a debate?


did trump give putin a silly red plastic button to re-establish russian us relations?


did trump allow putin to hack government databases for years before finally standing up and 'takibng forceful action by telling putin to cut it out


did trump send a careless whisper to putin saying he'd have more lattitude after the election? where are the threads about that ????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!


did trump reneg on a promise to supply Poland with promised defensive missles??


US policy has been to encourage global business to reduce the possibility of war and encourage peace trhu profit. Trump does global business.


Trump's words are taken out of context and translated to fit false narrative.

Trump is about marketing and if a company of his does business with russia/putin it would be appropriate to say he has a 'relationship' with putin. especially if the format of the conversation would promote trump's negotiations or business. It is the theatrical exaggeration common to celebrities, politicians and salesmen.


Hillary, GWB and obama could also say they had a relationship with putin.


Again, political forums should be abuzz, specualting what obama meant when he told medvedev to tell putin he'd have more lattitude after the election. Now that is a statement that deserves investigating and speculation, rather than what a private citizen said.


It was okay for obama to sit in a churck of hate and division for 20 years and be believed he was not paying attention to ever hear a discourtaging word from rev wright. so why pile on trump when the media gave obama a pass for contradictory behavior.
Bam!
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Old 03-19-2017, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Ohhhhhhh ...they were "both on 60 minutes, and he was in Russia once because of the Miss Universe Pageant. I'm sure they talked a lot about foreign policy since Putin must have known that he would one day run for President.

There is a big difference between having "met" Putin and having a meaningful relationship in a political or business sense. Neither is the case. He was talking about Putin as an acquaintance, not as a personal close friend.

But let me ask you ...how many times did Obama lie? Born in Hawaii? We know it was a lie. His so-called birth certificate was a forgery, and now Hawaii says they have no record of him having been born there.

Neither was he a "Constitutional professor." He wasn't eve a professor. He was a lecturer.

We had eight years of a "sham" of a President.
Johnny. Did you break the window??? Johnny ???
Johnny Answers: Sally broke the glass cup in the kitchen...
This is how this post relates.
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Old 03-19-2017, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Watching faux, my Sunday entertainment hour, the guy about to rip out the trumpetes spokespeople's hair out !!! Even he is tired of the Deflections.
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Old 03-19-2017, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Warrior Country
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So you're the guy who bumped the POS 45 day old thread which has the Thread Title of:

Trump, well-known, admitted fraud, caught in yet another lie.

"Admitted Fraud" my *ss.

& your post below.....good lord. Let's get started (my comments in bold in your silly post below).

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This whole Trump fiasco.... Only a "fiasco" to snowflakes who won't let go.

....is depressing because it shows how many Americans lack moral character....the Left is defining "moral".....and "character" now?? That's like Stalin defining what type of person makes a good "capitalist".

and only care about slogans. Even though I agree with a few of Trump's views (who really likes outsourcing or terrorism?) Wall Street doesn't mind outsourcing....& many on the left apparently don't mind a little "radical islamic" terrorism....he fails on so many other counts that the total package is rotten. I disagree.

Those who ignore his war on America's quality of life via EPA cuts (industries don't self-police)...the EPA should be cut by 90%.

and crippled social services... the "Social Services" provided to the able bodied (non vet, non SS recipients) should be cut by 90%.

(that many right-wingers have used themselves) who gives a rat which political party the able bodied parasites belong to?

are showing that they are as ruthless and greedy as Trump himself, Trump isn't ruthless or greedy .....(except in business, which really isn't a bad thing.)

or so stupid that they can't see he's running a long con on them. Yeah....we're just blinded by the socialist inspired intellect of so many who post here.

All Trump cares about is money - If he did, he sure as heck wouldn't have run for president.

and the Military-Industrial Complex in conjunction with besting other nations, financially. Huh?? in conjunction?? What are you saying here??

Are you saying that he believes in a strong military? OK, you got one thing right.

You bumped this POS thread to state the all of these failed, effeminate positions above??

Get back to class Vodo, adults need to fix things out here.
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Old 03-19-2017, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Equating Obama (who inherited the Recession) to Trump is just a diversion. Obama had a lot more integrity and intelligence, which was obvious in the way he spoke vs. Trumps verbal effluent and constant insults. Those who think it's all "the same thing" are deluded. Obama at least meant well and wasn't in it solely for his own glory. Trump is a classic megalomaniac.

Why change the subject from Trump's barrage of lies to other people who tell far fewer lies, and certainly not such blatant ones? Trump is also more than a standard liar, he doesn't even care about the truth, i.e. he has no conscience.
Obama had integrity? hahahahahahaha Good one.
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Old 03-19-2017, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Trump lied? Don't be silly, you're confused, we've always been at war with Eastasia.
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Old 03-19-2017, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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I guess the issue that the libs aren't seeing comes down to is that what people with some intelligence and commonsense, thus voting for President Trump, are still interested in what we were interested in during the campaign season: 1. the economy 2. jobs 3. security 4. healthcare.

The "fraud and liar" was defeated because she didn't care nor did she even bother discussing these topics.

Geesh, the venom that is being spewn by the libs continues to put more nails in the coffin of the Democratic Party. It past time the party be allowed to RIP!
So why won't you admit that Trump lies on almost a daily basis? Hillary had a likability problem (as does Trump for many people) but she was far less corrupt in terms of fully vetted evidence vs. witch-hunts by people who also think global warming is a hoax. The GOP was intellectually dishonest long before Trump led them, and he's even too corrupt for some of them!

As for:
  • 1. the economy 2. jobs Trump's plan to "improve" that situation is to raise pollution levels so we can keep pretending that ruining nature is progress. Admittedly there's also a problem with green energy hypocrisy, like wind farms that destroy the environment yet claim to be helping it.
  • 3. security Trump is angering terrorists even more by singling out entire nations for travel bans and proposing an absurd, impractical wall. He's making the world more volatile, not more secure. He shows a weak understanding of human nature and diplomatic tactics that actually work.
  • 4. healthcare. Trump is gutting benefits by setting healthcare policy that favors GOP (rich folk) ideology. The CBO panned his draft of Obamacare as putting 24 million more people on the uninsured roles, so of course Trump wrote them off as inept (his ego again).

He's a serial liar and he's not doing anything truly good for America, so what's so great about him? To accept Trump as a moral, effective leader, you have to assume that most who speak against him are "fake news" journalists or part of some conspiracy. Odds of that being true are very small.

Speaking of "fake news," don't forget the lesson of Germany's "lügenpresse" when Hitler didn't like what the press said of him. In this open media age, it's unlikely that Trump would become a U.S. Hitler, but he's as close as anyone may get. No other President has come close to all the whining about even the smallest criticisms via Twitter (which Obama had at his disposal but used wisely). Trump's skin is far too thin for the job.
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