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Trump is physically getting it done.. Everything he said he would do on the campaign trail , he's delivering on.. The only ones stopping him are bought and paid for globalist liberal judges.
Its not a show.. Hes delivering on it. DO the liberals hate people who get things done they said they will do? Did you all think he was joking??
Why is there no respect for a man following up on what he promised? When is the last time America had that? Hope and change?? ROFLMAO!!!!! Well there was sure "hope".
Well, I guess from now on candidates who issue threats from the campaign trail will be taken a little more seriously.
Following up on crazy-talk isn't a good thing, no. Understandably that doesn't earn someone respect. I mean, usually it's best to report people who go around making insane and dangerous threats. Not "respect" them.
Why do conservatives suddenly hate America, by the way? The judicial branch is pretty important to, you know, being America.
That's where donors of Hillary's corrupt pay for play scheme is from.
But I'm sure you're perfectly fine with the fact that Betsy DeVos just paid Republicans to confirm her. Can't get more hypocritical and corrupt than a Republican.
Its a disease that needs to be eradicated. Why would any RATIONAL human be asking for problems and for attacks???
It is republicans that created these problems and republicans that ask for massive terrorist attacks in the future.
Today's terrorist threat is from ISIS. ISIS did not exist until the GW Bush White House said 935 false statements about Iraq and invaded Iraq in the name of Sept 11 (when Iraq had nothing to do with Sept 11.) And it GW Bush's actions that turned the once non-terrorist country of Iraq into the ISIS homeland and created today's ISIS threat. Study: Bush, aides made 935 false statements in run-up to war - CNN.com
And in the near future advancements in medical and computer technology will give groups like ISIS access to biological weapons capable of killing millions of Americans. And in the not so distant future groups like ISIS will have access to genetic biological weapons capable of killing 100's of millions of Americans.
How will Trump's travel ban stop terrorists located in South America or Canada from loading drones with biological weapons and sending them to America?
How will Trumps travel ban stop terrorists from putting biological weapons in shipping containers that come in contact with our major ports and river transit systems?
Trumps travel ban stops none of those things. But Trumps travel ban takes freedom itself away from Muslim people so they can not even travel to the places they desire. And perhaps some of those freedom denied Muslims will now join or support ISIS, or they will speak hatred of America to their children and then their children will grow up to make genetic biological weapons and then kill 100's of millions of Americans.
And fact is Muslims make up 23% of the worlds population and their numbers are growing faster than any other religious group. And Muslim terrorists can not be 100% defeated with military actions alone.
And perhaps liberals are too soft on terrorists, but the liberals attempts of respecting and loving Muslims is the only way to truly defeat today's Muslim terrorist threat. But republicans don't work with liberals to make their peace attempts safer.
Very soon Muslim terrorists will have the ability to kill millions of Americans from Canada, South America, or a shipping dock in Spain, and whats the republican response?
Answer: To publicly insult Islam and take away a Muslims freedom to travel and live free. And Donald Trump's war on Islam is not going to end the terrorist threat, instead its going to cause biological weapons to one day be released in America and kill millions or 100's of millions of American people.
Its a disease that needs to be eradicated. Why would any RATIONAL human be asking for problems and for attacks???
The only way to truly end the terrorist threat is with a combination of conservative and liberal ideas. We need conservative ideas of keeping America safe to keep us safe today, but mixed with liberal ideas so Muslims are not disrespected and made to want to kill us more. And we need liberal ideas of making peace with Muslims to fully end the terrorist threat, but mixed with conservative ideas so the peace efforts don't let actual terrorists into America.
But we as Americans don't do the above, instead we just fight each other and call the other side "idiots."
We should come together and fight the common enemy. But war is about money. Personally, I think we let things go on too long, and we put politics before solutions, and never agree. Ban or no ban will make any difference if the enemy if wants to hurt us, least we should help the victims of those wars.
UK members, are you as much of a police state as we have become?
I find it amazing and sad that so many on the right are so willing to give up the pre-911 lifestyle and freedom of the country and give in to government control over so many aspects of society because of essentially one successful attack on US soil.
Yes, don't get me wrong, there needed to be changes, but I would say, we have changed too much. 0.001052632% of our society was killed and we have thrown out so many of our freedoms. I blame this on both a power grab by the government but also on cowardice by a certain the part of US society - post 911.
Unfortunately, this is a attitude not restricted to America.
To members from GB, I ask you (re: the troubles)...
GB endured, what I remember to be almost monthly attacks by the IRA for a very long time. The view from this side of the Atlantic was that the average GB citizen soldiered on and gutted it out - not giving in to the terrorists and whining that all borders need to be sealed and the carpets rolled up at night. I may be wrong, but that was my impression. I am sure the government made many changes, but where they as sweeping as the changes post 911?
For some reason, after 911, the UK has also gone security crazy - becoming as this article claims - a counter terrorism state.
How is it that GB endured for so long during the IRA conflict with temporary measures and now is suddenly just as paranoid as the US has become. The OP's title is a perfect example of these observations. 911 was a tragedy and we needed to make some changes, but we don't NEED to stop being who we are so that a few bed-wetters can sleep at night. Even worse is if we are changing not because of their terrorism fears - but because they see this as a solution to (an excuse to act out on) their xenophobia.
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I find it amazing and sad that so many on the right are so willing to give up the pre-911 lifestyle and freedom of the country and give in to government control over so many aspects of society because of essentially one successful attack on US soil.
Yes, don't get me wrong, there needed to be changes, but I would say, we have changed too much. 0.001052632% of our society was killed and we have thrown out so many of our freedoms. I blame this on both a power grab by the government but also on cowardice by a certain the part of US society - post 911.
Unfortunately, this is a attitude not restricted to America.
To members from GB, I ask you (re: the troubles)...
GB endured, what I remember to be almost monthly attacks by the IRA for a very long time. The view from this side of the Atlantic was that the average GB citizen soldiered on and gutted it out - not giving in to the terrorists and whining that all borders need to be sealed and the carpets rolled up at night. I may be wrong, but that was my impression. I am sure the government made many changes, but where they as sweeping as the changes post 911?
For some reason, after 911, the UK has also gone security crazy - becoming as this article claims - a counter terrorism state.
How is it that GB endured for so long during the IRA conflict with temporary measures and now is suddenly just as paranoid as the US has become. The OP's title is a perfect example of these observations. 911 was a tragedy and we needed to make some changes, but we don't NEED to stop being who we are so that a few bed-wetters can sleep at night. Even worse is if we are changing not because of their terrorism fears - but because they see this as a solution to (an excuse to act out on) their xenophobia.
Good post. I am a 9/11 survivor, 1 WTC. Lost 80+ coworkers, plus others I saw every day.
People forget that the WTC was attacked in 1993 and had been threatened since the 80s. We KNEW we were working in a terrorist target, but we were willing to take the risk to work in the sky in one of the most exciting places in the world. We certainly hoped they wouldn't be able to accomplish what they said they would after '93, and the attacks were a horror, but that's the risk you take to live in a free society.
The illusion was that we were somehow "safe" before, and that we can be made "safe" again. Time to move to Reality Town, people. We were never safe. A life worth living means taking risk.
Good post. I am a 9/11 survivor, 1 WTC. Lost 80+ coworkers, plus others I saw every day.
People forget that the WTC was attacked in 1993 and had been threatened since the 80s. We KNEW we were working in a terrorist target, but we were willing to take the risk to work in the sky in one of the most exciting places in the world. We certainly hoped they wouldn't be able to accomplish what they said they would after '93, and the attacks were a horror, but that's the risk you take to live in a free society.
The illusion was that we were somehow "safe" before, and that we can be made "safe" again. Time to move to Reality Town, people. We were never safe. A life worth living means taking risk.
Sorry for your direct and personal losses. I hope that experience is less hurtful for you while still being remembered. I went to visit the site after they had completed the excavation of the foundation and I was moved to both sadness and to anger at the same time. As I said, I think the US needs to do all that we can to prevent these terrorist acts in the future, but that does not include giving up our freedoms or changing our society for a few paranoid and xenophobic people. You are right, the illusion of safety is indeed not worth the loss of freedom.
I am reminded of the 96 Olympics... It was no where near the tragedy, but I remember being outside of Centennial park when it was closed again for a bomb threat. They cleared the park for about an hour and people stayed in the streets jammed tighter than on a subway car at rush hour. I could physically feel the people in front, back, left and right. But I don't remember hearing ANYONE complain as we all waited for the bomb sweep to be completed. As soon as the park reopened, we all swept right back in. I was very proud to be one of the many brave Americans that night. We all lose when we change our ways because of a bully or terrorist.
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UK members, are you as much of a police state as we have become?
