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Which is true. Only US citizens and nationals have the right to be in the US, everyone else is a guest, even LPRs. However, it's wrong to think the Constitution ONLY applies to US citizens, since the Constitution, and especially theBill of Rights, was written before US citizenship came into existence with the 14th Amendment
intelligent folks! Oh Oh No its ~~FACTS~~ they can't handle facts--
Yes... the country belongs to the citizenry. But, not all the citizens are isolationists and they want people to be able to come here through proper channels.
You sound like you've already decided that none of them should be allowed entry.
We aren't desperate for additional citizens. We have plenty here already. What is it with the Left wanting to flood our nation with waves of non-assimilating immigrants?
How about we take a breather, and keep the annual number allowed to what the law says. Just enough to keep the population at a constant or slightly increasing number.
NOT tens of thousands of people that are only here for the bennies!
Trump called for one repeatedly. Guiliani stated that Trump asked for help making one that appeared legal.
AND lets not forget the nice language put in to help Christians but not Muslims. And yes I know it didn't come out and say Christians, but only a idiot would not see the connection.
And now another district court has agreed. But I suppose they dont count either right?
Reality. deal with it.
Trump can ban any class of aliens he wants to ban, including Muslims.
He can favor any class of aliens he wants to favor, including Christians.
USC 1182 (f)
The constitutional prohibition against favoring (or disfavoring) a particular religion does not apply to foreigners who are outside of this country.
They have no constitutional rights whatsoever.
We shouldn't be letting Muslims into this country. Many of them are terrorists or are liable to become terrorists.
And we should certainly be letting in Christians, who are being slaughtered by Muslims in the Middle East at this very moment.
USC 1182 (f): Whenever the president finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
I hope the above clears things up both for you and the muddle-headed liberal judges.
This is the horse he rode on, except you have to prove it - the courts said HOW-- even a darn NASA person- was detained - bad juju for the person who made him open his govt phone...
Miller and the trumpettes must know that all is questionable- there are NO KINGS in the USA
You are completely wrong. Trump has legal authority to issue the immigration order.
Federal immigration law includes Section 1182(f), which states: “Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate”
it's precisely the same statute that Obama operated under when he put a 6 month halt on all immigration from Iraq. And Islam isn't mentioned ANYWHERE in Trumps order.
Incredibly, the 9th Circuit never mentions the legal statute cited above in their decision... they simply ignored it.
You're welcome.
yawn. Oh you so schooled me. Oh wait.
Federal immigration law does not supersede the constitution, which is what the judges found. As well as today, a judge in Virginia stating this as well.
I know many folks have this vast fantasy of the president having complete power, its just not even remotely true. It was a convenient fiction that the house and senate used to blame Obama for anything bad. Stop believing that nonsense.
Go out and read the briefs, and judgements on this.
And so far this has not yet had a actual hearing-remember most of these cases are all about the injunction, so far we haven't had a court really hear the merits of the case.
And if he made a order about "anyone wearing a turban", it wouldn't be about religion either right? Cause he didn't say "Islam" or "muslim" right? Courts understand thats nonsense. And Trumps own words, and guilianis statements are damning.
If this was about protecting us, Saudi would be on that list.
We aren't desperate for additional citizens. We have plenty here already. What is it with the Left wanting to flood our nation with waves of non-assimilating immigrants?
How about we take a breather, and keep the annual number allowed to what the law says. Just enough to keep the population at a constant or slightly increasing number.
NOT tens of thousands of people that are only here for the bennies!
we throw away 100 times whatever benes the refugees would use-- see history
Y'know, somebody actually indicated he (or she, who knows?) was upset with me for referencing 8 USC 1182 (f) too many times.
It seems them folks preach that we are a "Nation Of Laws", but if you tell them what the law really says, and give them the reference so they can read it or look it up, they do not want to hear it.
Unless, of course, it reinforces what they are saying.
Forget Trump's unconstitutional executive order. At this point, he could be facing some serious legal trouble over Flynn and the Russia calls. I bet the EO is the last thing on his mind right now. But while we're on the subject, foreigners have constitutional rights, even if they are illegal immigrants. Their legal status determines the extent of their rights, but as a civilized nation, everyone has some rights, even mass murderers on death row.
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For the purposes of this discussion, "right" and "permission" are functionally the same thing.
If you are "allowed" to be someplace, you are "permitted" to be there.
So, the "rights" issue is a bit weird.
If I invite someone to my home, they have every right to enjoy the hospitality of my home as long as they follow the rules of my house.
I don't tell them that only people who live here have "rights" while they merely have "permission."
It's nitpickery when it comes down to the actual act of BEING in a given location.
The term "rights" has great legal and constitutional significance, so one is well advised to use that term carefully when discussing a legal dispute that concerns alleged (but as it turns out, nonexistent) rights.
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Oh No its ~~FACTS~~ they can't handle facts-- 
- bad juju for the person who made him open his govt phone... 
