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Are we talking about the same Humana that covers Millions of people people 65 or older?
Yes we are talking about the same Humana, for profit, publicly traded company that just declared a 38% increase in the first quarter dividend.
Humana is exiting the entire individual Plan business and doubling down on the Medicare Advantage where more than 85% have one chronic condition and 66% have multiple chronic conditions. The difference is obvious, Medicare is the primary payer.
Health insurers have been cherry picking or exiting the individual plan markets for more than 25 years because they lose money.
Talk to us about a coverage for all system when you figure out how to get 100% of the people to pay for it.... income be damned. You want to go to a regressive tax system instead of a progressive system? I'm good with that........
We all are already paying for the medical care of the sickest (elderly/disabled on Medicare). Insurance companies don't want them.
They need to get the govt out of health care completely, no revamp.
Does not appear POTUS agrees.
He has promised to "replace Obamacare with something wonderful that will take care of everybody and the government is going to pay for it.
Just last week, Pence double- downed on this sans the part of government paying for it.
The week prior, Spucer is on record saying if you like your plan/ Doctor......
Only way to reduce premiums is to cut benefits.
Of course none of this does anything about the actual cost of healthcare or that 75% of us are overweight- obese and substantially more vulnerable to serious disease.
20 million of us have been diagnosed with Diabetes 2 which on average costs about $10,000 a year to treat.
Reportedly and incremental 20 million are pre-Diabetic.
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We all are already paying for the medical care of the sickest (elderly/disabled on Medicare). Insurance companies don't want them.
And those people paid in 40 years or more for that through their payroll taxes.. They deserve that care. You said, and I quote, "public option (a.k.a. Medicare for all." That is a whole other can of worms.
Insurance companies are complaining that there are too many people with insurance, they are losing money, so they hike up rates.
Here's my thing...and I'm not a big socially driven person...isn't kind of creepy to think all those years we could afford health care because the insurance companies refused to cover people who really needed it.
Makes me feel like I'm being selfish, self centered ...a bad Christian...when I say --- give me the old system. Let me have my lower insurance rates and just don't tell me about all those other people that don't have coverage.
Just doesn't seem right does it?
Before someone whips out the myth of state High Risk Pools, let me nip that in the bud.
More than half the states did not have such pools and those that did excluded more people than they covered. TCtics used to exclude included but we're not limited to:
Closing the pool
Excluding certain conditions
Capping annual claims
No capping out of pocket expenses
Premiums only the very wealthy could afford
At peak, only 200,000 were insured by state high risk insurance pools, nation wide.
I hope those crazies don't just drop people children elderly out in the cold with no insurance to pay for Meds, antibiotics, surgeries etc. the repercussions be grave...
And those people paid in 40 years or more for that through their payroll taxes.. They deserve that care. You said, and I quote, "public option (a.k.a. Medicare for all." That is a whole other can of worms.
Paul Ryan does not agree with you about the people who paid into Medicare deserving that care.
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