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Again I'm not to sure if we will see an increase of marriage in the US. With the election of Donald Trump, Trump is planning on cutting and gutting plenty of government office jobs that mainly employ women. These women will most likely have to get married to maintain their livelihood. Trump wants to cut welfare, wants to cut food stamps and cut all other social programs that benefit women. These women will not have to get married in order to maintain their livelihood. In the next few years due to Trump presidency we will see an increase of marriage. This is why plenty of women across the country are having women marches against Trump administration due to the rollback of female gains from the past 50 years. Its not going to be easy for an average guy with an average income, but did poor with women, end up marrying a broke woman who already has her own family of two kids from a previous relationship.
I am seeing less marriages out there, but more cohabitation..especially with welfare single moms who don't tell welfare they are living with the "baby daddy", he is working, there are getting welfare..... btw its illegal
Are ^ welfare single moms your neighbors that you seem to know so much about them?
Delaying marriage or not marrying is a global thing in the developed world.
The poorer the country the more likely a father continues to sell his daughter into marriage at a very young age as was once common nearly everywhere.
About 70% of Icelandic mothers never marry and reportedly most do not live with the father(s) of their children. Moms work and the Nordic welfare system takes care of the rest.
About 70% of Icelandic mothers never marry and reportedly most do not live with the father(s) of their children. Moms work and the Nordic welfare system takes care of the rest.
In the interest of full disclosure, that is a very old Icelandic norm. Bastardry never carried a stigma on Iceland.
It seems like we're going full-circle. Women used to be economically dependent on men and marriage rates used to be high. Then there was the whole Women's Liberation movement that took off in the 70s. That resulted in a lot of single men and women. Maybe in the 70s, 80s and 90s a single person could afford his or her own house. Not any more. Many people cannot even have a 1-bdrm apartment unless they split rent with someone. Dual incomes is becoming one of the major motivators behind men and women getting together. Ironically, men and women are more economically dependent on each other than ever before.
I do not accept the premise of your assertion. While some of what you said might have somewhat of an effect, the main reason marriage has steadily decreased is because of the decline of morals, traditional values, and religious adherence.
There was a strong social stigma associated to having sex and/or living together outside of wedlock. That was especially true of pregnancy where the children were referred to as bastards.
Today, just about any perversion is declared a so called "lifestyle choice", so it is hardly surprising that society does not view hetero sex before marriage as small potatoes compared to the freaks.
Heck, I imagine that the freaks of today might be viewed less harshly when you can have multiple people of various sexes all getting married together at the same time. If one dies and they all want to engage in some necrophilia for a while, will that raise eyebrows?
Or maybe when Bubba legally marries his sheep or pedophiles are demanding "their rights", that will make the current crop of freaks seem tame.
I agree with you, but also she needs to bring more to the table as well. These days women want to whole package. Nothing wrong with that. In matter of fact, I believe in women freedom and choice with what they want. Women want happiness and again nothing wrong with that and I'm all for it or that. But top notch men are very rare, and top notch men are less likely to commit. Go to DC and NYC and see all the top quality men who cheat day in and day out and the women can't do nothing about it.
These days men are being cautious with entering relationships with women who have families and women who amounted debts over the years from getting degree after degree.
I totally agree.
Everyone needs to bring something to the table. Just as it's no longer enough for a man to bring home the bacon, it's no longer enough for the woman to cook it.
I've been through a divorce, and I was the initiator. It was a pretty bad experience, and I made up my mind then that I'd never have a second one. For a couple decades, I was flat out anti-marriage. I've softened in my old(er) age - there are some very practical reasons to be married. But so far, none of them have been sufficient reason for me to get married again.
Yes, having the right person in your life is much better than being alone. But being alone is FAR, FAR better than having the wrong person. And the hell of it is that there is no guarantee that the right person won't turn into the wrong person.
I don't understand your post. A man needs to offer more to a women (who needs) his money to get by? To have the privilege of marrying her???
Put it this way - I'd much rather live out of a shopping cart than be legally tied to a man who thinks that because he has more money than I do, he can and should control my life.
Not in the context of the woman needing the man's money, that was all yours. A man may show up with a big paycheck as part of his assets, but women are no longer considered failures for holding out for more than just that, and good on them.
Everyone needs to bring something to the table. Just as it's no longer enough for a man to bring home the bacon, it's no longer enough for the woman to cook it.
I've been through a divorce, and I was the initiator. It was a pretty bad experience, and I made up my mind then that I'd never have a second one. For a couple decades, I was flat out anti-marriage. I've softened in my old(er) age - there are some very practical reasons to be married. But so far, none of them have been sufficient reason for me to get married again.
Yes, having the right person in your life is much better than being alone. But being alone is FAR, FAR better than having the wrong person. And the hell of it is that there is no guarantee that the right person won't turn into the wrong person.
Being alone is the scary part. More and more women are dying alone because they are not married, or do not have the finances to take care of themselves, even their kids cant help them. This is why marriage is important when old age because one needs a partner to make life saving choices.
Again I'm not to sure if we will see an increase of marriage in the US. With the election of Donald Trump, Trump is planning on cutting and gutting plenty of government office jobs that mainly employ women. These women will most likely have to get married to maintain their livelihood. Trump wants to cut welfare, wants to cut food stamps and cut all other social programs that benefit women. These women will not have to get married in order to maintain their livelihood. In the next few years due to Trump presidency we will see an increase of marriage. This is why plenty of women across the country are having women marches against Trump administration due to the rollback of female gains from the past 50 years. Its not going to be easy for an average guy with an average income, but did poor with women, end up marrying a broke woman who already has her own family of two kids from a previous relationship.
Those are freebie government things, too many wasteful gov jobs. Women can compete in the private employment marketplace like men. Gains are better education which women have, and they can use to get real jobs - welfare and useless gov jobs is charity, not a win for women's equality.
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