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Old 02-16-2017, 01:46 AM
 
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It seems like we're going full-circle. Women used to be economically dependent on men and marriage rates used to be high. Then there was the whole Women's Liberation movement that took off in the 70s. That resulted in a lot of single men and women. Maybe in the 70s, 80s and 90s a single person could afford his or her own house. Not any more. Many people cannot even have a 1-bdrm apartment unless they split rent with someone. Dual incomes is becoming one of the major motivators behind men and women getting together. Ironically, men and women are more economically dependent on each other than ever before.
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Old 02-16-2017, 01:52 AM
 
Location: California
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It doesn't have to be marriage but I sure see a lot of couple living together for economic reasons. I also know 2 couples, one in their 30's and one in their 60's, who were dating and got married when health insurance became an issue.
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Old 02-16-2017, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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It seems like we're going full-circle. Women used to be economically dependent on men and marriage rates used to be high. Then there was the whole Women's Liberation movement that took off in the 70s. That resulted in a lot of single men and women. Maybe in the 70s, 80s and 90s a single person could afford his or her own house. Not any more. Many people cannot even have a 1-bdrm apartment unless they split rent with someone. Dual incomes is becoming one of the major motivators behind men and women getting together. Ironically, men and women are more economically dependent on each other than ever before.
Do you have numbers to support your belief that marriage rates are increasing? Because I don't see it.

After all, you don't have to get married in order to share living expenses.

I've been single now for over four decades. In a million years, I would never get married solely in order to improve my economic situation. It simply isn't worth it.
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Old 02-16-2017, 07:41 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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It's more likely that you'll see a continuing increase in the number twenty-something adults returning to their childhood homes. The multi-generation household is making a comeback. My neighborhood is full of large homes with expansive basements that have been decked out with extra bedrooms, bathrooms, and entertainment spaces that can host three-generation families.
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Old 02-16-2017, 07:49 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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It's more likely that you'll see a continuing increase in the number twenty-something adults returning to their childhood homes. The multi-generation household is making a comeback. My neighborhood is full of large homes with expansive basements that have been decked out with extra bedrooms, bathrooms, and entertainment spaces that can host three-generation families.
This and the reverse. 2nd job is selling appliances. Have sold more than a few mini kitchens for Mcmansion basements for mom. Hilly area and walkout basements for the win. Cant do the stove. Well legally anyway.
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Old 02-16-2017, 08:00 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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This and the reverse. 2nd job is selling appliances. Have sold more than a few mini kitchens for Mcmansion basements for mom. Hilly area and walkout basements for the win. Cant do the stove. Well legally anyway.
I agree. Friends of my in-laws created a family compound of sorts. Grandma was widowed and sitting on a historic home in a very expensive coastal city. Upkeep became too much for her, so she sold it and bought an expansive rural home for her grandson, his wife, and her g-grands. She lived for many years (she died at age 103) in the attached granny unit. Seemed to work well for all involved.
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Old 02-16-2017, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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It seems like we're going full-circle. Women used to be economically dependent on men and marriage rates used to be high. Then there was the whole Women's Liberation movement that took off in the 70s. That resulted in a lot of single men and women. Maybe in the 70s, 80s and 90s a single person could afford his or her own house. Not any more. Many people cannot even have a 1-bdrm apartment unless they split rent with someone. Dual incomes is becoming one of the major motivators behind men and women getting together. Ironically, men and women are more economically dependent on each other than ever before.
I am seeing less marriages out there, but more cohabitation..especially with welfare single moms who don't tell welfare they are living with the "baby daddy", he is working, there are getting welfare..... btw its illegal
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Old 02-16-2017, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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It seems like we're going full-circle. Women used to be economically dependent on men and marriage rates used to be high. Then there was the whole Women's Liberation movement that took off in the 70s. That resulted in a lot of single men and women. Maybe in the 70s, 80s and 90s a single person could afford his or her own house. Not any more. Many people cannot even have a 1-bdrm apartment unless they split rent with someone. Dual incomes is becoming one of the major motivators behind men and women getting together. Ironically, men and women are more economically dependent on each other than ever before.
There is a lot of talk about this topic in the men's rights movement. The US both left and right are entering the populist era. With the defeat of Hillary Clinton, marked the end of the Reagan years and neoliberalism in America which championed women's rights and marked the end of the expansion of the Great Society Years of the 60s and 70s. In socialist countries like Nazi Germany, and the Soviet Union, and even in PRC China, women rights were rolled back, and women are subordinate of men. I'm not sure if this will happen in the USA, but it looks likes due to high costs of income, women and their small families will have to seek out stable working men now to get by. The nation saw this decline of marriage with the African American community which has 70% out of wedlock births, generations prior blacks had the highest rates of marriage. Now white Americans are increasingly going down the same road as black Americans. The only groups of Americans with high marriage rates are Asians, Jews and Muslims.
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Old 02-16-2017, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Hard to say.

I assume in developed countries, women are very independent. They earn their own money and many women have very high positions in government and company. Most of them don’t even need men for their financial security.

My fiance and I make pretty much the same amount of money. Neither one of us wants a prenup agreement because it is not necessary.

I cannot imagine marrying somebody I am not attracted to. Money is just not worth it. Plus, the money my family gives me and the money I earn is good enough. I don't need any extra.

To each her own I guess.

This said, I can understand why some people marry for money. Different people look for different things. I am attracted to good looking men who are generous, kind, loving, brave, and passionate. Being generous doesn't mean that he has to make a lot of money. This just means that he cannot be "cheap."
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Old 02-16-2017, 08:40 AM
 
Location: My House
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I think more cohabitation. Tax filing isn't always kind to marrieds.

Of course, you may see more homosexual citizens getting married before people get all juiced up over gay rights again.
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