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Old 04-16-2017, 07:02 PM
 
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I guess you will need to poll a large sample of black women to find out. Your issue is not caused by PP, it is caused by the black women eschewing birth control and opting for a cycle of pregnancy and abortion instead even when the birth control is readily available.
add teenagers of any race who do the same thing or any other women who take the risk and have unprotected sex.
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Old 04-16-2017, 07:17 PM
 
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I don't think black women or any other woman is over using abortion. the risks with abortion are minimal.
The risks of using contraception are even lower, and so is the cost. So why aren't Black women turning more towards contraception use and away from their disproportionately high abortion rate?
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Old 04-16-2017, 07:19 PM
 
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I guess you will need to poll a large sample of black women to find out. Your issue is not caused by PP, it is caused by the black women eschewing birth control and opting for a cycle of pregnancy and abortion instead even when the birth control is readily available.
How does that make any sense, either health-wise or financially?
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Old 04-16-2017, 07:21 PM
 
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add teenagers of any race who do the same thing or any other women who take the risk and have unprotected sex.
Blacks still have the highest abortion rates among those groups. Why, when using contraception is so much less expensive and safer than abortion?
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Old 04-16-2017, 07:28 PM
 
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Blacks still have the highest abortion rates among those groups. Why, when using contraception is so much less expensive and safer than abortion?
lots of people either won't or don't use BC, men are the worst offenders. perhaps ask some men
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Old 04-16-2017, 08:57 PM
 
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How does that make any sense, either health-wise or financially?
It doesn't make sense but PP is not the one making the decision for them. It is the women making the decisions for themselves. How is it possible to blame PP?
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Old 04-17-2017, 03:47 AM
 
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It doesn't make sense but PP is not the one making the decision for them. It is the women making the decisions for themselves. How is it possible to blame PP?
So, you're saying it's Black women's fault for being several times more likely to choose the more costly and higher health risk abortion option (instead of using contraception) to meet their family planning needs.

Again, that makes little sense, considering both the higher cost and increased health risks of abortion over contraception use.
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Old 04-17-2017, 10:25 AM
 
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So, you're saying it's Black women's fault for being several times more likely to choose the more costly and higher health risk abortion option (instead of using contraception) to meet their family planning needs.

Again, that makes little sense, considering both the higher cost and increased health risks of abortion over contraception use.
It makes more sense than saying Planned Parenthood is intentionally pushing the more expensive option on poor people. Poor people of any race are generally stupid and irresponsible, that is why they are poor. I find it very plausible that poor people would choose the occasional abortion over the daily use of birth control because it is less ongoing effort.

To frame this issue as racism is absolute lunacy.
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Old 04-17-2017, 10:32 AM
 
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It makes more sense than saying Planned Parenthood is intentionally pushing the more expensive option on poor people. Poor people of any race are generally stupid and irresponsible, that is why they are poor. I find it very plausible that poor people would choose the occasional abortion over the daily use of birth control because it is less ongoing effort.
Perhaps, but that in NO way explains Black women's multiple times higher abortion rate.

If being poor were the determining factor, the abortion rates by race would match or correspond to the poverty rates by race. They don't. And it's unconscionably detrimental to Black women that people refuse to recognize and address the huge discrepancy, as abortion both costs more and is a higher health risk than contraception use.
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Old 04-17-2017, 10:43 AM
 
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Perhaps, but that in NO way explains Black women's multiple times higher abortion rate.

If being poor were the determining factor, the abortion rates by race would match or correspond to the poverty rates by race. They don't. And it's unconscionably detrimental to Black women that people refuse to recognize and address the huge discrepancy, as abortion both costs more and is a higher health risk than contraception use.
"She emphasized that money is often a decisive factor. The median wealth of white households is 18 times that of Hispanic households and 20 times that of black households, according to the Pew Research Center, but across the board, low-income women have a higher rate of unintended pregnancy and abortion regardless of race. They are less likely to have health insurance or consistent access to healthcare, and therefore birth control, according to a study by the Kaiser Family Foundation. The Guttmacher report credited the increase in popularity of contraceptive intrauterine devices (IUDs) with contributing to the decline of the abortion rate. IUDs are among the longest-lasting and most effective methods of birth control—but they’re also among the most expensive, and therefore not an option for many low-income women."

This is from this article. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...al-gap/380251/

I would add to the above that Latinos as a minority tend to be more religious -- especially Catholic.....so that would mean they would be less likely maybe to seek one.

Not saying that's based on anything other than a 'perhaps'...so don't go blasting me with stats...lol.


http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/...-554-abortions
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