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Old 02-17-2017, 08:18 PM
 
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Pretty much a ridiculous comparison, every body of water starts from somewhere. River basins, wetlands are critically important to our water quality. Pointing to a few small cases that you feel unjust don't make your case for overturning the clean water act. Pruitt has proven that he has no interest in protecting the environment, he is only interested in protecting his backers.
Is it? How far is too far? Should the EPA regulate makeup? Should it regulate your diet so that your face doesn't get too oily? Or should you just not be allowed outside when it's raining? We all know that the runoff is going to end up somewhere.
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Old 02-17-2017, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Your concern is working with Environmental groups when we are talking about the Environmental Protection Agency.
I know, right?

SMH….
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Old 02-17-2017, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Is it? How far is too far? Should the EPA regulate makeup? Should it regulate your diet so that your face doesn't get too oily? Or should you just not be allowed outside when it's raining? We all know that the runoff is going to end up somewhere.
No they should just be able to regulate water basins and tributaries and creeks that feed major bodies of water. How exactly did they effect you or are you just carrying the torch.
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:06 PM
 
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No they should just be able to regulate water basins and tributaries and creeks that feed major bodies of water. How exactly did they effect you or are you just carrying the torch.
Let me guess, you don't own property that has a creek running through it. The water doesn't magically appear in creeks either. Where does the water go that is created when salt is applied to sidewalks and streets. Does it end up in my creek?
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:30 PM
 
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Right. Liberals miss the point.
The point is, the EPA has gone far enough. In fact, you and I believe it has gone a bit too far.

Now we have someone who will dial it back a notch and hold it there. The only way liberals can fight that thought is to threaten us all with an early death brought on by breathing in poisonous air and drinking contaminated water.

Here's an example. The EPA mandates a total of about 70 different mixes of gasoline. 70. All in the name of "cleaning the environment".
Bureaucratic Gas | The Weekly Standard
No you miss the point. We have to take care of our planet in order to preserve it for our children and future generations. You guys just want to abuse it
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:38 PM
 
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Right. Liberals miss the point.
The point is, the EPA has gone far enough. In fact, you and I believe it has gone a bit too far.

Now we have someone who will dial it back a notch and hold it there. The only way liberals can fight that thought is to threaten us all with an early death brought on by breathing in poisonous air and drinking contaminated water.

Here's an example. The EPA mandates a total of about 70 different mixes of gasoline. 70. All in the name of "cleaning the environment".
Bureaucratic Gas | The Weekly Standard

good points
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:52 PM
 
Location: London
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Right. Liberals miss the point.
The point is, the EPA has gone far enough. In fact, you and I believe it has gone a bit too far.

Now we have someone who will dial it back a notch and hold it there. The only way liberals can fight that thought is to threaten us all with an early death brought on by breathing in poisonous air and drinking contaminated water.

Here's an example. The EPA mandates a total of about 70 different mixes of gasoline. 70. All in the name of "cleaning the environment".
Bureaucratic Gas | The Weekly Standard
I agree that the EPA has enacted a lot of pointless and frivolous rules - this one seems pretty dumb for example; but there are some common sense things that should be in place. Like not dumping pollutants into rivers.

Some conservatives want to completely eliminate the EPA. Isn't that throwing the baby out with the bathwater? Could Pruitt just start by removing the less-useful regulations, while leaving the more important rules in place? There are many frivolous regulations that would be low hanging fruit - why not start with that and see how much more freedom businesses can enjoy without throwing all caution to the wind (or river)?
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Old 02-18-2017, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
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This is so depressing and distressing. We need the EPA, and we definitely don't need a man who sued the EPA multiple times to be in charge of it! What's even more depressing, though, is how many people are okay with this. Because the holy grail of "jobs, jobs, jobs" somehow means more than clean air and water for us, our children, and our grandchildren. You know what unchecked growth is? Cancer.

China had unchecked industrial growth without worrying about piddly issues like this, and where are they now? They're being forced to confront the problem decades after they should have, and they're having trouble attracting talent to places like Beijing because the air pollution is so bad, especially in the winter when coal is being burned for heat.

This is just another manifestation of the phrase, "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." The Republicans are drunk on this power now. It's hard to argue that they don't intend to bring all of us down with their insanity.
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Old 02-18-2017, 06:29 AM
 
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Pointing to a few small cases that you feel unjust don't make your case for overturning the clean water act.
Nobody is overturning the Clean Water Act, that would require action by Congress. Next BS statement.

If you are referring to the regulation Trump nixed it never went into affect because it was one of those last minute regulations by Obama. There is already laws on the books at both the federal and state levels.
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Old 02-18-2017, 06:35 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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I have climate research scientist friends, and they're very fearful that their work won't be preserved - they're worried about their jobs, of course, but they're actually more worried that their data and past work will just be wiped away. Basically like what they did never even happened.

That is depressingly sad that this is where we are in regards to science policy.

This Presidency is going to set us back in many scientific fields, and that's not a good thing (no matter how people who don't understand or care about the science want to spin it).
Your friends should have gotten real jobs. Data in search of an agenda is what we've been paying for at this rogue agency.
Your friends can retrain for jobs in retail sales or auto repair.
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