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GE isn't a multi billion dollar company because they're stupid.
You guys trust corporations to do everything else without question. Why the skepticism now?
I gave MY opinion. Your opinion maybe being different from mine is fine by me... but I have no intentions of debating with someone who would likely scream discrimination if a major company stated they intend to add 20,000 best qualified men, and no women to their new workforce.
Maybe you're just wanting to troll. Either way, have your opinion... I have mine.
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So... you received encouragement from your math teacher, joined the math team, were welcomed by your teammates and participated in competitions. You were fully exposed to what math is about. But in the end it just wasn't something that you were wanted to continue with because it wasn't really that interesting. The system worked perfectly for you. Yet still you come on here with all the standard feminist complaints. Women aren't "steered" enough or made to think math is fun and practical enough. There really is no solution that will satisfy people like you.
But few other women were encouraged to do hard math. My high school calc class had 3 other women. In a class of 20.
Math team was basically about solving math problems quickly. There is little education in the US about how those math skills are applied in the real world.
For example I think data science is super interesting. Finding patterns is data is way more interesting than solving calculus equations. But you need to understand the equations to be a data scientist.
I loved the show numbers - it made math look fun, and essential for solving problems. I saw zero math career path besides being a teacher so I stopped taking math. I liked it but since I didn't want to code it didn't seem to have much of a useful path. And I had other ideas of my career path.
If you want kids to be excited about STEM - they need to understand all of the options besides coding.
Why don't you watch or read Hidden Figures. Women didn't get access to most of the jobs!
What "Hidden Figures"?
Are you saying that the companies will prefer to not to fill vacancies than hiring a woman for the opened position?
Sorry, I find that hard to believe, because THERE IS A shortage of STEM specialists in the US, no matter what your calculations are here;
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The US is graduating about 300,000 STEM people per year. So lets say that just 25% are women, then that means that 75k new grads every year. That looks like a pretty good number of options to me. And entry level means people within their 1st 3-4 years of work, so that gives them a pool of 225-300k people to pull from.
See, the article above doesn't address the issue that STEM includes a variety of studies - not just MATH/ PHYSICS/ENGINEERING, where men excel naturally; but other studies, such as biology for example, where women can pull though as well. So this creates surplus of specialists in some STEM areas, but there is still shortage in the areas where women can't keep up with men.
But this article explains it rather well;
"Over the past decade, there has been substantial concern regarding the adequacy of the science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM) workforce. Opposing sides paint a polarizing picture: Is there a “STEM crisis” or a “STEM surplus”? Our answer is that there are both.
STEM covers a diverse array of occupations, from mathematicians to biomedical researchers, and at degree levels from bachelor to Ph.D. Some occupations have a shortage of qualified talent, such as nuclear and electrical engineering Ph.D.’s who are U.S. citizens; in other areas, such as biology Ph.D.’s aiming to become professors, there is a surplus."
So since there are not too many men capable in math/physics to begin with, and there are obviously enough of job opportunities say in electrical engineering, do you really think that the companies would prefer to get by without an engineer, than to hire a qualified woman?
And if the answer is "no," then what "HIDDEN FIGURES" are we talking about?
So if a white man is successful you assume he is looking down his nose at you. See my previous post.
White men have been at the top historically and that's what they do as a group- look down, subjugate, etc. With that said, for clarity, it's not typically successful white male scientists I see looking down their noses. Take this thread as an example. There is no shortage of non-stem working males putting their claim on innate ability even though they are not a part of the sample. They just like the idea of it. So, it's not about their success, which is a non-starter, vs my success as a scientist. It's about the gender roles they push for their benefit. As a group within society there is impact and that is what must be contended with.
White men, settlers and their families, built this country, the best country in the world. To deny their bravery, success, and influence is absurd. You should be grateful for white men who built this country instead of hating them.
Acknowledging the truth is not about hate. That you think white men, alone, built this country is interesting. This country was built by a variety of ethnicities and both genders.
Acknowledging the truth is not about hate. That you think white men, alone, built this country is interesting. This country was built by a variety of ethnicities and both genders.
White men were the first settlers of this country. White men were the authors of our Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Bill of Rights. This country was built by white men.
Good idea or should people stop worrying about how many of a certain race or gender is in a certain field?
The state police in our area is hiring. They specifically state they are looking for female applicants as they want to be more "diverse".
For entrance, they do not have the same standards as men for the physical assessment. The problem is the job may demand those physical standards.
The entire feminist movement is hogwash. Women have more opportunity than ever. It's all under a banner of inequality, when in reality with our "pink-collar" economy women have been actually doing better than men anyways.
The entire movement has no legitimacy. It is simply reverse discrimination. The best person for the job should get it.
Acknowledging the truth is not about hate. That you think white men, alone, built this country is interesting. This country was built by a variety of ethnicities and both genders.
It takes more than a board room to build a company, to build a nation, to build anything. And let's be clear, it's not some innate ability that makes up the color of that room, but subjugation and domination. You are making my point.
White men were the first settlers of this country. White men were the authors of our Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Bill of Rights. This country was built for white men by white men.
So the people that were here and got killed when the "white men" brought their diseases didn't exist.
P.S. I fixed you post.
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