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Old 02-17-2017, 07:58 PM
 
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Maybe I'm the only one who knows about this since I have a close relative who works as a surgeon. Apparently one of the less talked about components of Obamacare was that it gave more power to Physician Assistants. Now they can perform surgeries, prescribe meds, etc. The problem is that many everyday Americans don't know the difference in knowledge/training that a PA has versus an MD. I know someone who recently went to a PA for a simple stitching of his right hand and she screwed up his tendons and he no longer has control of his right hand. I heard about someone else who went to a PA to diagnose his abdominal pain and she said it was nothing and later his appendix ruptured. Lastly, I know someone who recently because an infectious wound specialist and he said that he gets a lot of business from patients whose PA did a lousy job of closing their wound.

I promise I'm not a paid troll from the AMA trying to discredit PAs.
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Old 02-17-2017, 09:52 PM
 
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Maybe I'm the only one who knows about this since I have a close relative who works as a surgeon. Apparently one of the less talked about components of Obamacare was that it gave more power to Physician Assistants. Now they can perform surgeries, prescribe meds, etc. The problem is that many everyday Americans don't know the difference in knowledge/training that a PA has versus an MD. I know someone who recently went to a PA for a simple stitching of his right hand and she screwed up his tendons and he no longer has control of his right hand. I heard about someone else who went to a PA to diagnose his abdominal pain and she said it was nothing and later his appendix ruptured. Lastly, I know someone who recently because an infectious wound specialist and he said that he gets a lot of business from patients whose PA did a lousy job of closing their wound.

I promise I'm not a paid troll from the AMA trying to discredit PAs.
I'd rather go to a PA than a foreign doctor that can't speak English. Besides, the scope of PA practice is determined by the states and hospital policy. The states issue the licenses and can revoke them. The hospitals can revoke privileges. ObamaCare did not give more power to PAs. It is a disaster nonetheless. If it wasn't for PAs working the urgent care side of the ER the wait would be much much longer.
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Old 02-18-2017, 02:18 PM
 
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What is it in ACA or Obamacare that changed the status of PAs? I'm not aware of any impact on PAs other than specifically stating they can be members of Accountable Care Organizations (ACOs).

As noted, states regulate what a PA can and can't do. I'm sure your examples of bad practice are true but I don't understand what you think Obamacare had to do with the
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Old 02-18-2017, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Florida
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OP please provide evidence. Your claim that "I have a close relative who works as a surgeon" is anecdotal.
Since Obamacare is still insurance I would imagine it's regulated by states & hospitals as another poster mentioned.
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Old 02-18-2017, 02:29 PM
 
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Provide proof, OP. These laws are usually regulated by individual states.
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Old 02-18-2017, 02:31 PM
 
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Provide proof, OP. These laws are usually regulated by individual states.
Bingo. It's a state issue. The OP suddenly turned that into a thanks Obama moment. What nonsense.
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Old 02-18-2017, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Maybe I'm the only one who knows about this since I have a close relative who works as a surgeon. Apparently one of the less talked about components of Obamacare was that it gave more power to Physician Assistants. Now they can perform surgeries, prescribe meds, etc. The problem is that many everyday Americans don't know the difference in knowledge/training that a PA has versus an MD. I know someone who recently went to a PA for a simple stitching of his right hand and she screwed up his tendons and he no longer has control of his right hand. I heard about someone else who went to a PA to diagnose his abdominal pain and she said it was nothing and later his appendix ruptured. Lastly, I know someone who recently because an infectious wound specialist and he said that he gets a lot of business from patients whose PA did a lousy job of closing their wound.

I promise I'm not a paid troll from the AMA trying to discredit PAs.
So based on hearsay and a couple of anecdotal incidents without providing any proof, you conclude there is a "Physician Assistant malpractice crises"? What a dangerous, unsubstantiated, incorrect assertion.

Obamacare is irrelevant to your fallacious argument.
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Old 02-18-2017, 03:15 PM
 
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I haven't heard anything about malpractice. While I do have insurance, I frequent an old school physician who does not even accept it (love her). On the other hand, my kids see PA's and a team of doctors. They complain about the system, but not the PA's themselves.

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Old 02-18-2017, 03:21 PM
 
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Ahh the mind of a Trump supporter and random ACA hater. Guess you thought that made up reason was a big GOTCHA! until you found out that it wasn't.

Most places have NP and PA doing rounds and seeing low risk patients. Many are in doc in the box type places or in low risk scenarios. All states require they work under a physician. This is a state issue, something those on the right ususally champion IF it suits the current narrative. It is also a hospital issue since regardless of what the state says people can do, hospitals limit it. As an example, many techs in the ER are not allowed to push meds or even give meds despite being able to do so on the truck as an EMT. Many hospitals won't even look at an LPN despite legally being able to work at the hospital.

In short, try and educate yourself a little more before you decide to point out something you hate that actually has no point in reality except in your mind.
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Old 02-18-2017, 03:24 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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I had PAs as my primary care mangers in military clinics until I delevoped a serious chronic illness. I was then switched to an MD only status. I miss the PAs, as a group they just seemed so much friendlier and willing to listen than the MDs. I see no reason ordinary care, such as strep swabs, physicals, prescription renewals, and other small things can't be treated by PAs.
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