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Old 02-19-2017, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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I think it's awesome. My son has a full ride scholarship to MSU, and he's going into mechanical engineering. He's been involved with competitive robotics club for 5 years, and he wants to specialize in industrial automation.

Good news for him!!
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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You would be hard pressed to find an expert in the field who supports that view. The general consensus seems to be that robots and AI will take over a large fraction, if not most, of the jobs currently done by humans within the time scale of a single generation. So the OP's point is quite valid. There is no looming labor shortage in developed economies which will require immigrants to fill the jobs.
The "experts" have been predicting that since at least the 1970s when I entered the work force. Ane really, it looked a lot more reasonable then than now. Technological progress in many areas seems to have slowed greatly in my lifetime.
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:15 AM
 
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If that's what you want, you had better lose your taste for chicken. And everything else you eat, because white Americans eat more than they know how to grow, harvest, and process. America was once 60% farmers, back when we had 1/3 the population. Agriculture is now done by 6% of us, and white folks do not make up the majority of that 6%.
You are clearly just making up your statistics.

Farmers, ranchers and agricultural workers are some of the Whitest professions in America. 96 percent of farmers and ranchers are White. 92 percent of agricultural workers are White.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business...merica/281180/

And less than 2 percent of the US workforce is in agriculture. Much of that decline in numbers has to do with mechanization. Those number will decline even further because robotics are spreading into the field of agriculture just like it is into most other fields.

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SL.AGR.EMPL.ZS
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:22 AM
 
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Americans won't design, test, develop, manufacture, market, deliver, install, maintain, modify and/or repair robotic systems?
In the past new industries have always led to new ones, this is different because the new industry in this case can fill every imaginable job there is or it creates. These are not going to be dumb machines but one that can perform highly skilled tasks like surgery for example, when it's done with surgery you can have it change the tire on your car.

Take a 3-D printers for example. If you need something you will be able to print it; simple items like cooking utensils,more complex things like a gun....or very complex things like another 3-D printer. Amazon will use their drones to deliver the raw materials to you that was mined by robotic machinery.

This tech is right on the horizon and is going to become common shortly. The biggest issue is that it is not compatible with a capitalistic society. Business needs people with money in their pockets and people need jobs to have money. With no jobs both the business and the people that used to work for them are in trouble. I'm fairly conservative but I think it's inevitable that some type of socialistic society will have to emerge as this tech goes forward.
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:23 AM
 
Location: PSL
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What would be interesting to see is like sky scrapers with elaborate lighting and fertilization/irrigation systems, climate controlled, with electric powered sonar/radar programmed combines to harvest crops on each floor, and when full dump the crops on a conveyor belt to be loaded in the back of a truck. Could increase acreage and production by going up...

Could have one floor with a tropical climate to grow citrus/mangos... Another floor with a temperate climate to grow apples corn etc. Could revitalize honey bee population by getting a few dozen crates worth of honey bees to pollinate and reproduce to be transported back to nature...
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:26 AM
 
Location: PSL
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In the past new industries have always led to new ones, this is different because the new industry in this case can fill every imaginable job there is or it creates. These are not going to be dumb machines but one that can perform highly skilled tasks like surgery for example, when it's done with surgery you can have it change the tire on your car.

Take a 3-D printers for example. If you need something you will be able to print it; simple items like cooking utensils,more complex things like a gun....or very complex things like another 3-D printer. Amazon will use their drones to deliver the raw materials to you that was mined by robotic machinery.

This tech is right on the horizon and is going to become common shortly. The biggest issue is that it is not compatible with a capitalistic society. Business needs people with money in their pockets and people need jobs to have money. With no jobs both the business and the people that used to work for them are in trouble. I'm fairly conservative but I think it's inevitable that some type of socialistic society will have to emerge as this tech goes forward.
I want my Jetsons flying car dang it! Don't care if it's a conglomerate effort between GM and Cogswell/Spacely Sprockets...

Wasn't that supposed to happen back in 2000? Haha
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:29 AM
 
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I let mine expire .
Technically I can't drive a truck because I haven't kept up the medical card but you don't need it to keep the license. I certainly don;t want to have to go through the hassle of getting it again so I just pay the extra amount for it. I'd have to go get the card and file to lift the exemption before driving, if I got caught driving a truck before that I'm toast.
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:30 AM
 
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I want my Jetsons flying car dang it! Don't care if it's a conglomerate effort between GM and Cogswell/Spacely Sprockets...

Wasn't that supposed to happen back in 2000? Haha
I might be wrong but I believe the Jetsons were set in the ~2060s.

But flying cars were shown in 2015 in Back to the Future II.
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:39 AM
 
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Wasn't that supposed to happen back in 2000? Haha

Actually back in the 60's when computers started going mainstream they were predicting this would occur shortly, of course it didn't. If you go back to my post previously about the letter A, identifying the letter A in it's six gazillion forms is easy for a human. It may sound like a trivial task but it's actually a very complex thing your brain does along with all the other things it does all day long. That is the gap they have faced and they quickly realized it wasn't so simple, that gap is quickly closing.
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:41 AM
 
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I might be wrong but I believe the Jetsons were set in the ~2060s.

But flying cars were shown in 2015 in Back to the Future II.
Flying cars for everyone is certainly doable with today's tech, it's the cost that is the issue.
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