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Old 02-22-2017, 08:33 PM
 
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Obama got extra credit for riding a girl bike in mom jeans and wearing a sissified bike helmet.
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:29 AM
 
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Yep, and the only reason they keep posting stuff is to deflect from the fact that Trump is doing so badly and is so bad, in general. It is all they have, so they hang onto anything to make them feel better.

Sad to watch.
Don't know what you are talking about. Those of us who voted for Trump are very happy with him so far. What's not to like? He's delivering on all of his promises. Not a fan of Trump personally, never liked his "style" if that's what you can call it, but on substance, no complaints whatsoever.


Fact is, it's just people like YOU who don't like Trump, never have, and never will, and you can't stand it that those of us who voted for him don't agree with you that he is "bad"....
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:32 AM
 
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Any news they don't like is fake news to Mr. Trump's hardcore supporters.



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The left plays the same game, don't try to fool us!
Yep, just like any election they don't like is stolen and illegitimate.


Thing about Liberals is, they are precisely everything that they accuse us of being.
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:03 PM
 
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History is relevant and I've predicted Obama in the top 1/3rd since about 6 months in.

It's the difference between reality and fantasy. GWB - on the other hand - I always predicted at the bottom of the heap (bottom 1/4).

I'm not sure they will be able to measure Trump but I say he will end up below GWB if such is possible.
Considering Nixon is ranked 28th (GW 33rd), I'd say Trump can theoretically do as well as even a POTUS-to-be-impeached...
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:09 PM
 
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The left plays the same game, don't try to fool us!
Examples are always appreciated, although it doesn't take much argument to point out there are those who play games on both sides. When it comes to the game of choosing facts that support our ideology/agenda vs truth plain and simple, any read through these threads proves how prevalent that choice tends to be.

All that said, the reminder that two wrongs don't make a right should be kept in mind when it comes to Trump today and his supporters. These "alternative facts" are a concern no matter who wants to promote an ends-justify-the-means way of getting things done. Falsehoods, regardless their source, should not be tolerated, left unchallenged, let alone accepted!

Right?
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:11 PM
 
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Considering Nixon is ranked 28th (GW 33rd), I'd say Trump can theoretically do as well as even a POTUS-to-be-impeached...
Nixon listened to some of the people and started the EPA. He ended the hijacking of airliners by installing security. In other words, he may have been a madman but he was a pol who actually has a long list of stuff he did in the history books.

But when the golden showers videos come out and the tax returns are looked at - Trump is surely to end up way behind Nixon (who did release his returns).

You have to be pretty bad to get into the bottom 1/3rd. It's a sad cast of characters down there.
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:23 PM
 
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Don't know what you are talking about. Those of us who voted for Trump are very happy with him so far. What's not to like? He's delivering on all of his promises. Not a fan of Trump personally, never liked his "style" if that's what you can call it, but on substance, no complaints whatsoever..
I'd say YOU are happy - but a large percentage of Trump voters are not. This means his original "approval" ratings of perhaps 45% are down to below 40%.

Delivering? I could deliver lots of promises to you. Here are two.

1. You will live forever with good health
2. You will soon make millions of dollars.

As we speak I am writing both of those things down and signing them. Because the Pastafari Spaghetti Monster has given me a special seal, those things are sure to come true. Just watch......

Wow....it's as if some Trumpies have no idea how our government and international relations work.....

In terms of "what you are gonna get".....without even digging, let's talk about some....

1. Trump and his China ruse - that turned out to be BS.
2. Repeal ACA - right not the GOP is hunkering down and they are hearing from tens of millions of Americans. Trump recently said "maybe in 2018" - that's a long way away. You can bet your bottom dollar that the main parts of the ACA will still be here. Any changes would be great if they were improvements (that was underway anyway).
3. Mexico pay for Wall - this is not gonna happen - no matter what.
4. Drain the Swamp of Wall Street and K Street in his administration - NEVER has a cabinet consisted of more Swamp Things than Trump.
5. Bring Back King Coal - Not a single coal plant opened in 2016 and I think ZERO are on the drawing boards - just more shutdowns. There will not be any increases in coal jobs in 2017/2018.
6. Save Money with his amazing negotiating skills - as with my "promises" above, let's see how much the national debt is reduced next year. Can we pay off a trillion of it - just 5%? Surely Big Trump can do that?

Here is $125 BILLION that can be saved each year without changing anything. Please let us all know when Trump is going to stop talking about peanuts and push on this one until it is done. After all, the report is already written and paid for.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...=.b809665c3fb1

Instead, you suck up his statements about what he saved on a plane that will be active over 30 years and that likely will cost us all tens of billions more than anything we spout now.

I guess this is the difference between being fact-based and just listening to spewing coming out of a con man.
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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Yeah academia seems to be a left leaning thing, maybe when one's mind is open to learning people just lean left ?
Right. Who needs books when there's Fox News there to tell us all we need to know...
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:39 PM
 
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Don't know what you are talking about. Those of us who voted for Trump are very happy with him so far. What's not to like? He's delivering on all of his promises. Not a fan of Trump personally, never liked his "style" if that's what you can call it, but on substance, no complaints whatsoever.

Fact is, it's just people like YOU who don't like Trump, never have, and never will, and you can't stand it that those of us who voted for him don't agree with you that he is "bad"....
What's not to like is that Trump supporters "are very happy with him so far."

Whether the promises he made, like building a big wall that Mexico would pay for or putting Hillary behind bars or banning Muslims (all as he promised when he campaigned), kept or not, what's to like?

MARK SHIELDS: And I just think, more than anything else, what we’re seeing in this administration, Judy, is campaigns are fun. Campaigns are police escorts, they’re airplanes, they’re crowds, they’re balloons, they’re bands, a lot of fun. You speak in vague generalities. You get applause for slogans.

And then governing comes. And governing is tedious and it’s difficult an it’s time-consuming and it demands your attention. And policy isn’t vague generalities. It’s specifics and it’s based on knowledge.

And I will say this. This White House is preciously scarce on attention. And I just don’t think the president — I think the president at that press conference you talked about really returned to the campaign station. He wants to do it again Saturday. It’s back to the balloons and the bands and the cheers. That’s fun.
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:42 PM
 
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Yep, just like any election they don't like is stolen and illegitimate.


Thing about Liberals is, they are precisely everything that they accuse us of being.
Do you and all the others never get tired of the never-ending playground "I know you are but what am I" retorts?

Mind boggling...

Even more so, mind numbing!
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